Originally posted by -Pr-
Gonna be closing this soon.
Originally posted by carver9
I forgot what happened during the Bizzaro scene. Do you have the rest of that ABHI?
Originally posted by -Pr-
He was also mentally compromised. That by default means he can't be taken as being fighting to the best of his ability.It's not the same as OWAW. Not even remotely.
Nitpicking, but I don't think going all at is necessarily the same thing as fighting to the best of one's ability. It depends on the context in which the expression is used.
That being said, I agree that those two versions of Superman are not the same. And I agree with you 110% on everything you said about Trinity and Blackest Night: WW!
Also, Batman needs to get punched more. A lot more.
Originally posted by -Pr-So an all out superman makes no mistakes while fighting? He cannot outfight WW. But answer this. OWAW superman we know, but what is WW and MM best?
He was also mentally compromised. That by default means he can't be taken as being fighting to the best of his ability.It's not the same as OWAW. Not even remotely.
Originally posted by abhilegendIn other words, superman gets a boost in power while you limit the other two? I forgot who made this thread. Superman for the handicap win.
The only time I recall of an all out wonder woman was against Bizarro where she was using her whole strength to hold him back and couldn't. An all out J'onn is a myth most probably.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Nitpicking, but I don't think going all at is necessarily the same thing as fighting to the best of one's ability. It depends on the context in which the expression is used.That being said, I agree that those two versions of Superman are not the same. And I agree with you 110% on everything you said about Trinity and Blackest Night: WW!
Also, Batman needs to get punched more. A lot more.
I would agree, tbh, and I think a lot of people equate "not holding back" with "fighting at your best". They're not the same thing at all.
Originally posted by JBL
So an all out superman makes no mistakes while fighting? He cannot outfight WW. But answer this. OWAW superman we know, but what is WW and MM best?
I never said he makes no mistakes. He just doesn't fight like he did in Sacrifice.
I don't really know what their uber versions would be, tbh.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Nooo!This popcorn I just microwaved will go to waste.
Shush!
Originally posted by -Pr-
Because we really don't need another scan-heavy Superman respect thread, is why.
Originally posted by JBL
Wonder Woman has faced down this so-called all out superman and was holding back. Team wins in both.
Originally posted by JBL
In other words, superman gets a boost in power while you limit the other two? I forgot who made this thread. Superman for the handicap win.
Originally posted by -Pr-
He was also mentally compromised. That by default means he can't be taken as being fighting to the best of his ability.
He was fighting overly-aggressively, but we saw him use his powers in well in combination, and they were at full power.
He was mentally compromise in the sense of thinking Diane was an enemy and being very angry, but that doesn't mean he was fighting badly in any sense.
Originally posted by Q99
He was fighting overly-aggressively, but we saw him use his powers in well in combination, and they were at full power.He was mentally compromise in the sense of thinking Diane was an enemy and being very angry, but that doesn't mean he was fighting badly in any sense.
He was out of his mind with rage and grief; Rucka said so.
It can't be construed as being usable for Superman based on that alone. It doesn't mean he was holding back his strength, but it does mean that he can't be considered as fighting with all of his faculties.
Originally posted by -Pr-
He was out of his mind with rage and grief; Rucka said so.It can't be construed as being usable for Superman based on that alone. It doesn't mean he was holding back his strength, but it does mean that he can't be considered as fighting with all of his faculties.
He was still doing advanced stuff like rapid-fire heatvision while at Super speed and such, using the environment like trying to throw her into the sun, actively avoiding her weapons, etc.. He didn't lose his intelligence just because he was full of rage, and we saw him use his powers and tactics on a good level during the fight.
Like I said, the grief made him fight overly aggressively, he would've normally been more defensive in stance, but he still very much was fighting well.
