Originally posted by carver9
👆Wonder Woman is enough.
So, Wonder Woman, who got embarrassed by Parasite, suffering from the Kryptonite poisoning that Superman did as a result of draining him, after he'd been fighting Supes and she got the drop on him, is going to beat Superman in a slugfest(no skill, no gear, no avoiding anything) on her own. mhmm
No wonder carter had to lie about the Ultraman/Martian Manhunter fight.
Originally posted by carver9
I think Diana is more powerful now than ever imo but I do think Superman, Pre Superman is more powerful all around. Hal sucks.
So you think that Post-FLASHPOINT Wonder Woman is more powerful than ever, that Pre-FLASHPOINT Superman is still more powerful overall, but the weaker Wonder Woman alone wins a slugfest. Carter-Logic. mhmm
Originally posted by cdtm
Thread should have ended with this.Martian Manhunter's been stated numerous times to be more powerful then Supernan.
1: Even if that's what mattered, there's more times Superman>J'onn than the other way around. 2: What matters more is that J'onn usually gets out-performed. 3: It's a slugfest. Unless you think those statements mean he's stronger too?
Visually, it's hard to get much sense of "humiliation" here.
Even in comics, or perhaps especially in comics, the following (excerpt below is from Wikipedia) is reasonably common knowledge:
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Manhole covers are often made out of cast iron, concrete or a combination of the two. This makes them inexpensive, strong, and heavy, usually weighing more than 50 kilograms (110 lb). The weight helps to keep them in place when traffic passes over them, and makes it difficult for unauthorised people not having suitable tools to remove them ...
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhole_cover
Gotta be honest, first thought at seeing Diana smiling and supportive after a villain with Superman's strength and speed hurls something like that at her, only to achieve a desperate getaway, was:
"Wow. They gave her some impressive ab strength there. Especially considering Diana's not particularly well-known, pre-2005 at least, for extreme durability. I've read comics where similar maneuvers nearly cut their target in two ..."
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I'd be interested in knowing when this storyline takes place.
'Cause if what you say is true, I'm wondering why all this supposed kryptonite is lying around.
If this is when I think it was, Loeb would use the idea of an asteroid broken off from Krypton to reintroduce Supergirl roundabout 2004 of course, but I've read where that was actually an afterthought.
I'm curious what the original reason for it might have been.
Originally posted by Delta1938
So, Wonder Woman, who got embarrassed by Parasite, suffering from the Kryptonite poisoning that Superman did as a result of draining him, after he'd been fighting Supes and she got the drop on him, is going to beat Superman in a slugfest(no skill, no gear, no avoiding anything) on her own. mhmmNo wonder carter had to lie about the Ultraman/Martian Manhunter fight.
😆 I came up again. Anyways, this is far from a fight. You posted scans of a couple of panel battle between WW and Parasite. I know you can do better than this. Desperation.
Originally posted by playa1258
Superman has been stated to be the most powerful being on Earth far more than MM.MM has a couple of times he is referred to as top dog and typical of the anti-Superman crowd that means he is more powerful no matter what.
Comicvine MM is not in this thread.
At least Comicvine got one thing right. 😛
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Visually, it's hard to get much sense of "humiliation" here.
Even in comics, or perhaps especially in comics, the following (excerpt below is from Wikipedia) is reasonably common knowledge:, concrete or a combination of the two. This makes them inexpensive, strong, and heavy, usually weighing more than 50 kilograms (110 lb). The weight helps to keep them in place when traffic passes over them, and makes it difficult for unauthorised people not having suitable tools to remove them ...
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[b]Manhole covers are often made out of cast iron
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhole_coverGotta be honest, first thought at seeing Diana smiling and supportive after a villain with Superman's strength and speed hurls something like that at her, only to achieve a desperate getaway, was:
"Wow. They gave her some impressive ab strength there. Especially considering Diana's not particularly well-known, pre-2005 at least, for extreme durability. I've read comics where similar maneuvers nearly cut their target in two ..."
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I'd be interested in knowing when this storyline takes place.
'Cause if what you say is true, I'm wondering why all this supposed kryptonite is lying around.
If this is when I think it was, Loeb would use the idea of an asteroid broken off from Krypton to reintroduce Supergirl roundabout 2004 of course, but I've read where that was actually an afterthought.
I'm curious what the original reason for it might have been. [/B]
She fails to take him out despite a cheap shot after he'd been fighting Superman, and gets stunned despite lassoing him and can't do a thing to stop him from getting away. Arguing the manhole cover is such a reach that a Wonder Woman fan would make. His "desperate escape" was entirely the lasso, because he'd been secretly posing as Lois for a long time, and the lasso would've revealed that. Note he brought up being exposed, he said nothing in regards to her power. And here's proof he was posing as Lois.
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In fact, as you can see, Parasite was in worse shape than Superman. And if Parasite saying, "What's killing you is killing me" isn't enough, here. Superman had been getting Kryptonite poisoning in his internal organs for months.
It was a genetically engineered cancer I believe. Had been poisoning him months. He actually started glowing green not long after the second Parasite fight, and in fact in the above scan you can see it in his face. Also, you missed the first scan in the initial Parasite fight, where Clark says he's getting sick and Lana says he doesn't get sick. An indication where he's not at full health.
So Wonder Woman can't take down Parasite with essentially a cheap shot despite he's at best as powerful as Superman who's been getting Kryptonite poisoning for months, which was also effecting Parasite, and had just taken damage from fighting Superman. In fact, he died from it before Superman, so yeah, hard to argue he was even as strong or durable as Superman there. And he ran off because he didn't want the lasso to expose he'd kidnapped Lois and was mimicking her down to the DNA(even replicating the hairline fracture in her wrist). But you go use that Wonder Woman smiling after Superman already looked for Parasite smiling like it happened immediately after Parasite hit her with the manhole cover, instead of she was actually too stunned to do anything.
Originally posted by carver9
😆 I came up again. Anyways, this is far from a fight. You posted scans of a couple of panel battle between WW and Parasite. I know you can do better than this. Desperation.
I understand you're pretty dim so can't easily comprehend this, but she couldn't take out Parasite who was draining the powers of a Kryptonite poisoned Superman with a cheap shot and got stunned rather easily by that Parasite. This isn't even a good example of Superman being superior to Wonder Woman. I'm not even bringing-up better stuff yet. And given that this is a slugfest, her skill and gear are irrelevant. So you're going to argue she beats him one-on-one in a slugfest? You're that delusional?
Originally posted by cdtm
At least Comicvine got one thing right. 😛
❌ They didn't.
Originally posted by Delta1938
I understand you're pretty dim so can't easily comprehend this, but she couldn't take out Parasite who was draining the powers of a Kryptonite poisoned Superman with a cheap shot and got stunned rather easily by that Parasite. This isn't even a good example of Superman being superior to Wonder Woman. I'm not even bringing-up better stuff yet. And given that this is a slugfest, her skill and gear are irrelevant. So you're going to argue she beats him one-on-one in a slugfest? You're that delusional?❌ They didn't.
You posted a scan of a non fight and used it as evidence of what will happen here. How about you post Diana and Superman sacrifice fight where she was holding back and still defeated an all out, Sun amped Superman. Can you post that for me?
