All Versus character sorting thread.

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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Well Nemebro did bring up a valid point that hasn't been answered. Honestly how does she fare against others?

Asura, KOS-MOS, Magnus, Thor, Superman, Wonder Woman, Black Bolt, Silver Surfer, Gladiator? Those are mid and high herald characters.


Depends if she's bloodlusted, Celestia is normally very gentle, but she has magic powerful enough to swing the sun around the Earth at FTL speeds according to her return scene. She's not as durable as most High Heralds, but in terms of raw power she could completely flatten several if she hits them, including Superman, even barring his magic weakness she has the raw power to put him down. She's a glass cannon, though.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Storm can't beat anyone in LH. Besides her lifewiping thing she's overall LM, so competing with peolpe in the same tier doesnt mean as much.

By the looks of it the higher up you go the wider the margin.

Amaterasu and the Golden Goddesses couldn't hope to touch Solaris.

Arceus would be curbstomped by Lucifer.

Even compare "Thor, Superman, Wonder Woman, Black Bolt, Silver Surfer, Gladiator" to Magnus.

Comparing is all well and good, but being set in a tier should be an independent thing.

Does it need a direct comparison when it says shes the fastest pony in the village and probably the fastest pony overall?

Magnus isn't a High Herald character, lol. NemeBro just wanted to put him there so he'd be above some of the other characters we have in the wrong tiers.

Says she's the fastest in Ponyville, lol. Then we get this horse:

She's never once said to be the fastest horse in all of Equestria or the world, it's possible there are faster pegasi, we just haven't seen them, and she's never implied to be faster (or slower, either) than Celestia or Luna. Essentially they're never compared or even implied to be compared, and I don't consider RD to be the pony speed limit, as she's not said to be. 😛

Originally posted by BloodRain
Storm can't beat anyone in LH. Besides her lifewiping thing she's overall LM, so competing with peolpe in the same tier doesnt mean as much.

By the looks of it the higher up you go the wider the margin.

Amaterasu and the Golden Goddesses couldn't hope to touch Solaris.

Arceus would be curbstomped by Lucifer.

Even compare "Thor, Superman, Wonder Woman, Black Bolt, Silver Surfer, Gladiator" to Magnus.

Comparing is all well and good, but being set in a tier should be an independent thing.

Does it need a direct comparison when it says shes the fastest pony in the village and probably the fastest pony overall?

Did you just call Storm as in X-Men Storm a low meta? She's easily a high meta and there are a few low heralds she could pull a few wins over. There are plenty of high metas that she can beat and she beat most of the mid metas.

There's no point in putting someone in a tier if they can't beat people in their respective tier.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Magnus isn't a High Herald character, lol. NemeBro just wanted to put him there so he'd be above some of the other characters we have in the wrong tiers.

Says she's the fastest in Ponyville, lol. Then we get this horse:

She's never once said to be the fastest horse in all of Equestria or the world, it's possible there are faster pegasi, we just haven't seen them, and she's never implied to be faster (or slower, either) than Celestia or Luna. Essentially they're never compared or even implied to be compared, and I don't consider RD to be the pony speed limit, as she's not said to be. 😛

..I take it that one is faster?

Okay she might not be the fastest, but both the descriptions and the show depict her as one of the fastest things around. Even if others are faster, being FTL is a massive bump up when RD needs to push to attain hypersonic+ or whatever she is.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Did you just call Storm as in X-Men Storm a low meta? She's easily a high meta and there are a few low heralds she could pull a few wins over. There are plenty of high metas that she can beat and she beat most of the mid metas.

There's no point in putting someone in a tier if they can't beat people in their respective tier.

Yes, LM without a massive storm. She isn't that fast or durable, and besides said storm she isn't that destructive or in access to hax.

Shes still technically a LH but would get defeated by Metas across the board.

She's a high meta she doesn't need a massive storm to beat someone. She controls the air in your lungs, the winds, thunder and lightning, summon blizzards and snow storms, exceptional telepathic abilities. She only has low physical durability, not energy or magic based. She has a shit ton more powers and abilities shown over the years outside of a "massive storm". I'm pretty confident she'd run through most if not all high metas in this thread. Read up on Storm, she's a lot more powerful than movies and cartoons lead you to believe. http://marvel.wikia.com/Ororo_Munroe_%28Earth-616%29#Powers_and_AbilitiesEdit

Originally posted by BloodRain
Storm can't beat anyone in LH. Besides her lifewiping thing she's overall LM, so competing with peolpe in the same tier doesnt mean as much.

By the looks of it the higher up you go the wider the margin.

Amaterasu and the Golden Goddesses couldn't hope to touch Solaris.

Arceus would be curbstomped by Lucifer.

Even compare "Thor, Superman, Wonder Woman, Black Bolt, Silver Surfer, Gladiator" to Magnus.

Not that I disagree with tier placement being independent of their ability to fight others in the same tier (after all, then what would that mean for the weakest being in that tier since he/she/it would be beaten by everyone else?), but Solaris is quite above Skyfather level.

Even Marvel Comics Odin wouldn't be able beat him, let alone Amaterasu who is nowhere near his level.

And also, WTF @ Storm being Low Meta. Are you serious? She could very well near-solo the tier.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
She's a high meta she doesn't need a massive storm to beat someone. She controls the air in your lungs, the winds, thunder and lightning, summon blizzards and snow storms, exceptional telepathic abilities. She only has low physical durability, not energy or magic based. She has a shit ton more powers and abilities shown over the years outside of a "massive storm". I'm pretty confident she'd run through most if not all high metas in this thread. Read up on Storm, she's a lot more powerful than movies and cartoons lead you to believe. http://marvel.wikia.com/Ororo_Munroe_%28Earth-616%29#Powers_and_AbilitiesEdit

Freezing bodies and snatching air in the lungs are the best hax which is a LM feat. The rest is only building level attacks and peak human in body. What was I meant to be seeing here?

High:
Castiel, Dante, Guyver, Hideyoshi Toyotomi, Kenshiro, Kojuro Katakura, Kratos, Luke Skywalker, Masamune Date, Master Asia, Mew, Comic!Rainbow Dash, Sarah Kerrigan, Tetsuo Shima, Yukimura Sanada.

Mid:
Alex Mercer, Alita, Alucard, Captain Planet, Death (Darksiders), Jackie Chan (Talismans), Kaiju's (PR), Kain the Vampire, Knuckles, Kojuro Katakura, Link, Hero of Legend , Link, Hero of Light, Link, Hero of Time, Link, Hero of Winds, Mario, Mega Man, Megaman X, Cyborg!Raiden, Rainbow Dash, Raziel, Samurai Jack, Samus Aran, Scourge The Hedgehog , Seras, Silver the Hedgehog, Shadow, Sonic, Sora, Yoh Asakura

Low:
Aang, Albert Wesker, Billith, Cloud , Eddie Riggs, Hellboy, Master Chief, Ratchet, Russell Edgington, Sylar, Voldemort, War (Darksiders), Warlow.

I am fairly certain, more so the higher up they are, that all of these characters can beat her. All from High, likely all from Mid and most if not all of Low.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Not that I disagree with tier placement being independent of their ability to fight others in the same tier (after all, then what would that mean for the weakest being in that tier since he/she/it would be beaten by everyone else?), but Solaris is quite above Skyfather level.

Even Marvel Comics Odin wouldn't be able beat him, let alone Amaterasu who is nowhere near his level.

And also, WTF @ Storm being Low Meta. Are you serious? She could very well near-solo the tier.


Tbh not sure why I suggested Skyfather..

And yeah, all I've seen from her without large-scale storms (Which makes her HM) is building level attacks, freezing/air sucking hax and peak human in body. Those things alone is LM, which is where I'd say she'd be without spreading the storms.

Probably missing quite a bit, didn't see anything game-changing in either wiki link.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Tbh not sure why I suggested Skyfather..

And yeah, all I've seen from her without large-scale storms (Which makes her HM) is building level attacks, freezing/air sucking hax and peak human in body. Those things alone is LM, which is where I'd say she'd be without spreading the storms.

Probably missing quite a bit, didn't see anything game-changing in either wiki link.

You were probably smoking something that day, like you are today. uhuh

She beat Wonder Woman. vin

She can freeze and temporarily subdue someone like Colossus with her powers, and she is a Lightning Timer.
Her Lightning is capable of taking out Heralds of Galactus.

She's also more than just a weather manipulator.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Freezing bodies and snatching air in the lungs are the best hax which is a LM feat. The rest is only building level attacks and peak human in body. What was I meant to be seeing here?

High:
Castiel, Dante, Guyver, Hideyoshi Toyotomi, Kenshiro, Kojuro Katakura, Kratos, Luke Skywalker, Masamune Date, Master Asia, Mew, Comic!Rainbow Dash, Sarah Kerrigan, Tetsuo Shima, Yukimura Sanada.

Mid:
Alex Mercer, Alita, Alucard, Captain Planet, Death (Darksiders), Jackie Chan (Talismans), Kaiju's (PR), Kain the Vampire, Knuckles, Kojuro Katakura, Link, Hero of Legend , Link, Hero of Light, Link, Hero of Time, Link, Hero of Winds, Mario, Mega Man, Megaman X, Cyborg!Raiden, Rainbow Dash, Raziel, Samurai Jack, Samus Aran, Scourge The Hedgehog , Seras, Silver the Hedgehog, Shadow, Sonic, Sora, Yoh Asakura

Low:
Aang, Albert Wesker, Billith, Cloud , Eddie Riggs, Hellboy, Master Chief, Ratchet, Russell Edgington, Sylar, Voldemort, War (Darksiders), Warlow.

I am fairly certain, more so the higher up they are, that all of these characters can beat her. All from High, likely all from Mid and most if not all of Low.

Tbh not sure why I suggested Skyfather..

And yeah, all I've seen from her without large-scale storms (Which makes her HM) is building level attacks, freezing/air sucking hax and peak human in body. Those things alone is LM, which is where I'd say she'd be without spreading the storms.

Probably missing quite a bit, didn't see anything game-changing in either wiki link.

First I just want to say how silly it is to say "Take away what makes them X tier and then they're not really X Tier."

Storm will drop a lot of those people in no time flat if she wanted. She destroys Aang, Wesker, Chief, Cloud and so on.

In High, I'll speak on the characters that I know, I know more of than the usual posters on here. The SB and HNK crew would lose to Storm. True if any of them hit her she'd be out for the count or dead if they were intending to do that but she has too many powers and abilities to get caught. Air in their lungs, burst their ear drums, freeze them, blanket the area with lightning.

Did you seriously read the link I provided and still say she's low meta?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
You were probably smoking something that day, like you are today. uhuh

She beat Wonder Woman. vin

She can freeze and temporarily subdue someone like Colossus with her powers, and she is a Lightning Timer.
Her Lightning is capable of taking out Heralds of Galactus.

She's also more than just a weather manipulator.


Nomaybeshutup ahah

Freezing is freezing. Is that her normal one or this 'cosmic weather' stuff?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
First I just want to say how silly it is to say "Take away what makes them X tier and then they're not really X Tier."

Storm will drop a lot of those people in no time flat if she wanted. She destroys Aang, Wesker, Chief, Cloud and so on.

In High, I'll speak on the characters that I know, I know more of than the usual posters on here. The SB and HNK crew would lose to Storm. True if any of them hit her she'd be out for the count or dead if they were intending to do that but she has too many powers and abilities to get caught. Air in their lungs, burst their ear drums, freeze them, blanket the area with lightning.

Did you seriously read the link I provided and still say she's low meta?


How is it silly when thats the whole topic? "Storm can't beat anyone in LH. Besides her lifewiping thing she's overall LM"

Just for seeing her as a peak human, can she tag supersonic/hypersonic characters and/or have methods to defend? Because I don't see the lungs/eardrums tactic being the greatest hax here, and it would only take a single hit on their end.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Nomaybeshutup ahah

Freezing is freezing. Is that her normal one or this 'cosmic weather' stuff?

How is it silly when thats the whole topic? "Storm can't beat anyone in LH. Besides her lifewiping thing she's overall LM"

Just for seeing her as a peak human, can she tag supersonic/hypersonic characters and/or have methods to defend? Because I don't see the lungs/eardrums tactic being the greatest hax here, and it would only take a single hit on their end.

It's silly because you're taking something away from a character and claiming that they would/belong in X tier. It's like me saying take away Charles' telepathy and he's a low street at best. The point of the thread isn't to place characters when you take away a standard power or ability of theirs.

She's tagged heralds of Galactus and harmed them.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/131/scan0011up5.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/385/img008uu4.jpg/

She's also kept up with jets and planes.

Surfer wasn't outmatched, but still a pretty cool scan and display of power.

http://imageshack.us/f/383/scan0010hz8.jpg/

I can link you to her respect thread and surely you'll see why she deserves to be in her tier even if you don't want to take into account the fact that she can generate storms.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Just wondering why hasn't anyone posted said feat yet?

[b]Storm acts as a temporary Life-Support for Eternity's consciousness

Eternity is dying. Dr. Strange decides to operate on him thanks to Reeds idea. Dr. Strange places Eternity under an anasthetic. He then places Eternity's consciousness into Storm and she acts as a type of Life Support.
Only Dr. Strange and herself out of the group present have the strength of spirit to survive such an ordeal.
Strange uses Gravitys monofundamental force powers as a scapel to perform surgery on Eternity's body. Slicing out the infected piece thus curing the Universe.

[/B]

Let the record show that for all of Storm's powers she is still below our King Magneto, who is in turn below Lord Victor Von Doom.

All thanks be to DOOM

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
It's silly because you're taking something away from a character and claiming that they would/belong in X tier. It's like me saying take away Charles' telepathy and he's a low street at best. The point of the thread isn't to place characters when you take away a standard power or ability of theirs.

She's tagged heralds of Galactus and harmed them.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/131/scan0011up5.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/385/img008uu4.jpg/

She's also kept up with jets and planes.

Surfer wasn't outmatched, but still a pretty cool scan and display of power.

http://imageshack.us/f/383/scan0010hz8.jpg/

I can link you to her respect thread and surely you'll see why she deserves to be in her tier even if you don't want to take into account the fact that she can generate storms.

Let the record show that for all of Storm's powers she is still below our King Magneto, who is in turn below Lord Victor Von Doom.

All thanks be to DOOM


And without telepathy Charles would be LS, but just like with Storm I'm not saying that should be her placement in the thread.. In fact the 'besides the large storm' part has nothing to do with this as I'm talking about whats needed to be put in a tier. Original argument being that the only thing that puts her in the LH tier on the other list was the range and spread of her storms, not the actual destructively power of it. Like how Mewtwo is technically a lifewiper even though his power to do so is City-level.

Like I asked DP, is this with this 'cosmic weather' thing?

And for the rest.. comics man, I tip my hat to the nerdians who keep track so well.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Nomaybeshutup ahah

Freezing is freezing. Is that her normal one or this 'cosmic weather' stuff?

Now I know why you wank Dante. uhuh

What do you mean by 'cosmic weather'?

She's flash freezed stuff on Earth, and she was inside a room when she subdued Colossus with just Ice. The Stardust incident (disintegrating a Herald of Galactus), I'm not too sure on that one.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Now I know why you wank Dante. uhuh

What do you mean by 'cosmic weather'?

She's flash freezed stuff on Earth, and she was inside a room when she subdued Colossus with just Ice. The Stardust incident (disintegrating a Herald of Galactus), I'm not too sure on that one.


I'm just chasing that white haired devil.. but.. you can never catch him, y'know?

On that wiki page it says how she can preform better feats in space when manipulating the shit up there, something I recall in a thread she was in.

Well if she can in fact generate the power to tangle with Heralds, fair enough she'd probably be one too. Only saw the MewtwoStorm as her only claim to power fame.

Speaking of white/silver haired devils, Lee Chaolan >>> Dante. Come at me bro.

Maybe. She's capable of manipulating weather anywhere for some reason.

At normal-high levels, yeah, she can easily tangle with Heralds.

Like I said, she beat Wonder Woman. vin

A-Are we talking attraction or..? <.< >.>

Alrighty, then she's fine.

..Amazon woman battle sneer

Just awesomeness in general. Dante is only excellent to guys like you. Lee Chaolan is excellence. excellent

Amazon woman battle. droolio

Also, Godzilla's placement anyone? I'm thinking Low Herald, but his most powerful version is planet-busting (when amped). Said amp can't be sustained for very long though.

Please, I'd even take Raiden over this chump.

Boy what I'd give to go to Themyscira 313

If that amp is natural then MH, LH otherwise.

Lee is the best, my favorite character. Lee wins.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Please, I'd even take Raiden over this chump.

Boy what I'd give to go to Themyscira 313

If that amp is natural then MH, LH otherwise.

Of course you would. sneer

Or to have a bunch of them come here droolio

It's natural, but it kills him, and it occurs when he cannot control his own inherent radiation.

But yeah, dude has destroyed a singularity with his atomic breath. haermm

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Lee is the best, my favorite character. Lee wins.

👆

No no no, them coming here means sharing. And two guys on the island is already crowding things.

Yeaahhh then I'm swaying to MH.