Thor and the Destroyer vs Ghost Rider and Spawn

lol and double triple lol, @thor being a murderer.. if he were than he would have gotten back his power when Odin taught him humility

Originally posted by juggerman

Thor going to the Ice Giant's home world for the sole purpose of picking a fight so he could kill them is still murder. They were defending themselves iirc

We don't exactly see Thor "kill" anyone of them. Thor picked a fight with them because he believed they were instigating a war when a few of them tried to steel the cask. Doesn't matter what the ice giant's motives were, point is Thor believed it to be an act of war and believed his actions just. That's not murder.

I like how the Ice Giants are being portrayed as innocent victims, when the movie started with them invading Earth and murdering multiple people with a WMD(Casket) and then later invading Asgard in order to steal sed WMD back and the movie ended with them again invading Asgard and attempting to murder Odin in his sleep.

It's like some people don't realize that invading a country and attempting to steal a WMD would be considered an act of war.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Look my point is.......

The Destroyer Armor and Thor are no doubt mass murderers.
The Thor history is proof of that unless other forums perceive Thor's actions as being void of any consequence.
He is devoid of any consequences.

Ghost Rider still "absolutely" destroys any being who killed innocent blood.

And the Destroyer Armor is in those levels. Along with possibly Thor.

I don't see the Penance star having any affect on, Thor. It's generally used on those who are cold blooded or have no remorse. Thor has had justifications in all the beings he has killed.

Originally posted by juggerman
What machine?

The huge construction machine in the recent film.
He jumped on it and took complete control of it.
It is apparently one of movie Ghost Rider's powers.
You argued the Destroyer has no soul and is an automaton.
Ghost Rider should take control of it upon touch.

Now it's 3 against 1.

I'm not sure that taking over a piece of construction equpiment is proof that he can hijack the Destroyer arnor.

Why not? It's a soulless automaton, and no one is controlling it in this fight.
And Ghost Rider is a freaking insane archangel sent to protect the Earth.
Angels > Asgardians.

Because movie Ghost Rider has zero feats of taking over something like the Destroyer armor.

Abilities are abilities.
The Rider has not only shown the ability to control any mechanical object but animals as well.
Don't put the Destroyer on a pedestal.
It is a tool of war. And it currently has no pilot.
And Ghost Rider has the credentials to ride the machine.
GR has shown higher supernatural ability than Loki has.

As I said, GR has zero feats of controlling something like the Destroyer, IE a magically animated suit of armor.

And as I said GR is a higher level of being than Loki.

Loki controlled the armor. You think GR is not a "magical" being? He's an Archangel!

Can you imagine the carnage GR would have wrought if he was on the Helicarrier?

Loki was able to travel between dimensions and control the armor from that distance, that is above movie GR's level.

He was also able to hide himself and others from Heimdall's senses, which again could detect things from other dimensions.

And lucky for GR the Destroyer is right in front of him so it doesn't have to worry about such long distance control.
Spawn can even envelope him and with cloaking appear right next to it!

The Destroyer becomes GR's ride.

Again, GR has no feats of controlling something like the Destroyer armor.

Riders touch any machine or animal and make them their rides.

Deal with it. It's a superpower.

It has no pilot in this fight. It's running on AI.

Again, GR has zero feats of taking over a magically animated suit of armor.

Lets play this game.

GR is a freakin Archangel of Justice! Sent by God to defend the denizens of Earth.

If that isn't "magical" enough for you then I don't know what is!

Good for him, he still doesn't have any feats of taking over magical animated objects.

GR threw a being into the air then threw him deep into the earth and pushed him into Hell.

Arguing base feats. That should BFR the Destroyer right. 🙂

Because the Destroyer is just going to stand there and let him, right? I mean it's not like the Destroyer has a ranged attack or superstrength.