Thor and the Destroyer vs Ghost Rider and Spawn

Originally posted by juggerman
He was. He was told not to go there and it was their land/world. Trepassing. He went there to kill them as he stated earlier and only agreed to leave because of Loki.

So trepassing? Check. Provoking? Check. Attacking? Check. Killing? Check. And mate

Post the clip where Frost Giants told Thor that going to their world would be trespassing...because as it stands Thor was within his rights to go there and demand an explanation for why they broke the treaty.

Thanks for admitting that Thor had agreed to leave and that the fight only started because the Frost Giant insulted him.

I'm still waiting for proof that Thor murdered the Frost Giants.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post the clip where Frost Giants told Thor that going to their world would be trespassing...because as it stands Thor was within his rights to go there and demand an explanation for why they broke the treaty.

Thanks for admitting that Thor had agreed to leave and that the fight only started because the Frost Giant insulted him.

I'm still waiting for proof that Thor murdered the Frost Giants.

I'm sorry but going into another world that you are not welcome is trepassing. He was even told not to go by his own king. And i like how you glossed over the fact that Thor himself stated he wanted to kill all the Frost Giants.

So name calling is now enough reason to kill? Gotcha. Thor being there looking for trouble provoked everything including that mean old name calling.

So trepassing? Check. Provoking? Check. Attacking? Check. Killing? Check. And mate

Again, Post the clip where Frost Giants told Thor that going to their world would be trespassing...because as it stands Thor was within his rights to go there and demand an explanation for why they broke the treaty.

Post the proof that one hit killed the Frost Giant.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, Post the clip where Frost Giants told Thor that going to their world would be trespassing...because as it stands Thor was within his rights to go there and demand an explanation for why they broke the treaty.

Post the proof that one hit killed the Frost Giant.

Again Thor proclaimed they should kill all the Frost Giants and they went there to do just that.

Is it you're claim that he didn't kill a Frost Giant?

That's nice, however I'm still waiting on the proof that Thor murdered them.

Avoiding again?

Not avoiding anything, I've addressed your points; there is nothing left to say until you can post the clips.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Not avoiding anything, I've addressed your points; there is nothing left to say until you can post the clips.

So you plan on denying the facts? Good to know

Originally posted by juggerman
I'm sorry but going into another world that you are not welcome is trepassing. He was even told not to go by his own king. And i like how you glossed over the fact that Thor himself stated he wanted to kill all the Frost Giants.

So name calling is now enough reason to kill? Gotcha. Thor being there looking for trouble provoked everything including that mean old name calling.

So trepassing? Check. Provoking? Check. Attacking? Check. Killing? Check. And mate

Name calling is not reason enough to kill. But Thor didn't kill that Frost giant who insulted him. He just hit it. However when you're outnumbered and you start fighting for your life (even if you did start that fight) against a whole world you've been at war with for centuries... and you ended up killing someone trying to defend yourself and your friends... is that murder then?

Anyway, it really doesn't matter how we think of it and how it matches our laws. The point of this was whether Thor would be guilty over it. If he's not guilty over it and if he feels it was justified then the penance stare may probably not work on him (regardless of how our human laws apply to him).

Originally posted by juggerman
So you plan on denying the facts? Good to know

I've explained why he wasn't trespassing, I never denied that Thor hit one of the Frost Giants, however their is no proof that it killed the FG nor does that one hit mean he can't defend himself and his friends when a few dozen other Giants attack them.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Name calling is not reason enough to kill. But Thor didn't kill that Frost giant who insulted him. He just hit it. However when you're outnumbered and you start fighting for your life (even if you did start that fight) against a whole world you've been at war with for centuries... and you ended up killing someone trying to defend yourself and your friends... is that murder then?

Anyway, it really doesn't matter how we think of it and how it matches our laws. The point of this was whether Thor would be guilty over it. If he's not guilty over it and if he feels it was justified then the penance stare may probably not work on him (regardless of how our human laws apply to him).

I agree but as stated earlier Thor went there with full intentions of killing FGs. He stated he wanted them all dead and went there to do so himself. Just look at his reaction to the name calling. He smiled. He wanted any reason at all to attack them. That's intent imo

If he started the fight on purpose(he did) then he is at fault. He attacked them so of course they would fight back. Thor was cold blooded

Originally posted by Silent Master
I've explained why he wasn't trespassing, I never denied that Thor hit one of the Frost Giants, however their is no proof that it killed the FG nor does that one hit mean he can't defend himself and his friends when a few dozen other Giants attack them.

You did not explain that. You seem to think that since he wasn't given a formal warning then it's ok. He wasn't there to inquire no matter how much you'd like to spin that. He was there to kill by his own admission. He picked a fight knowing they would attack him. Still murder.

Originally posted by juggerman
You did not explain that. You seem to think that since he wasn't given a formal warning then it's ok. He wasn't there to inquire no matter how much you'd like to spin that. He was there to kill by his own admission. He picked a fight knowing they would attack him. Still murder.

He's the prince of the nation that was attacked, he had every right to go there and demand to know why they broke the treaty.

Still waiting on proof that he murdered the Frost Giants.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He's the prince of the nation that was attacked, he had every right to go there and demand to know why they broke the treaty.

Still waiting on proof that he murdered the Frost Giants.

Yet that's not the reason he went. The spinning continues

EDIT: Oh and here's your proof:

Originally posted by juggerman
So trespassing? Check. Provoking? Check. Attacking? Check. Killing? Check. And mate

The most you have proven it that he attacked one Frost Giant after the Giants broke the peace treaty...that doesn't come close to proving he's guilty of murder.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The most you have proven it that he attacked one Frost Giant after the Giants broke the peace treaty...that doesn't come close to proving he's guilty of murder.

All you have done is deny the obvious

Originally posted by juggerman
All you have done is deny the obvious

If it's so obvious, post the clips of him murdering the Frost Giants.

Actually, I just rewatched the scene...Thor hits two before they all attack him and his friends. however there is zero proof that either Giant was killed.

YouTube video

Here's the video you were too lazy to post yourself. Notice at 1:06 Thor attacks and likely kills a Frost Giant for calling him a mean name. The FG in question does fly away and appears to break apart upon impact with the mountain. That's one

Then at 1:08 he says "Next?" implying that he's not done with his assault and wants to inflict more damage. This is cemented by the fact he needlessly attacks and likely kills another FG who's only crime was standing too close to Thor during his tantrum. That's two.

Seeing Thor's rampage, and having every reason to believe he would not stop until they all were dead, the others attack to try to stay alive. Spin away

Now you're just lying, the Frost Giant wasn't shown breaking apart, he was shown crashing into an ice wall that broke under his impact.

Nice try, now please post clips of him actually murdering Frost Giants.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Now you're just lying, the Frost Giant wasn't shown breaking apart, he was shown crashing into an ice wall that broke under his impact.

Nice try, now please post clips of him actually murdering Frost Giants.

Aw you've graduated to ignoring actual scenes now congratulations! He broke apart but even if he didn't(he did) any and all deaths after that point is cause the FGs are fighting for their lives against Thor's blind fury. If I walked into your house, attacked your family and showed no signs of stopping you'd attack me to defend yourself and your kin right? Then if I killed you it would suddenly become self defense? 😂 It's still murder

Just did guy. You're in denial