Magic Vs Science

Which is more, uh, whats that word......effective? No, um, yes, effective?
In terms of prep? Like john constantine is magics prep god, reed and doom are sciences prep gods?
In terms of a straight up fight like battle suits armor etc or black adam or shazam in which they become very powerful by saying a word.
Which is more effective and uhh powerful?

Magic is the most versatile i believe

Both killed a Celestial...

I always thought magic was more powerful than science, due to it not being limited by the laws of physics etc where as science is, not sure though.

Magic has a lot more on the spot potential but Science typically wins the day with extended prep on the average.

A great example of this is Dr. Doom as a person who uses both Science and Magic.

His Science feats generally far outshine his magic feats and his magic is definitely no joke considering he was a contender for sorcerer supreme.

Furthermore the super high end cosmic threats generally tend to be resolved via tech i.e. Galactus, Celestials, Abstract entites (Pre-Ret Beyonder), Marquis of Death, MJJ(Via Fury who was tech based)

Of course once you get to a certain level things tend to blend i.e. any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. So Magic users who are essentially manipulating reality with a high degree of control is technically using a system of science beyond what most can comprehend imo.

Isn't that Mxy?

It really depends on whether you mean soft- or hard science. Hard science is generally less versatile than magic, while soft science may well be on par with magic.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Isn't that Mxy?

Mxy's power got retconned to 4D imp tech for the reasons he was able to warp reality on the level he could, it used to be magic though.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Mxy's power got retconned to 4D imp tech for the reasons he was able to warp reality on the level he could, it used to be magic though.

When mxy attacked SBP it didnt affect him because of SPB's nigh immunity to magic(emphasised) it got retconned a while after it was at one point magic, now very very very very advanced 4D imp tech

Depends where you draw the line,

Trans and Below: science

Above that though science starts losing points.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Depends where you draw the line,

Trans and Below: science

Above that though science starts losing points.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Depends where you draw the line,

Trans and Below: science

Above that though science starts losing points.

Also technically mutants are science based.... they can be cloned and those clones will have their powers... No magic involved sans magical mutants.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Science has wiped out the universe... or multiverse depending where you look.

Sise Neg wiped out and remade the universe with magic though.

I was talking more Skyfathers and Elder Gods.

Heart of the Universe pretty much destroyed a Universe

HOTU- Heart of the Universe

Originally posted by Sundipped
Sise Neg wiped out and remade the universe with magic though.

There's also Alto Reed beating LT

Magic is pretty much better, or more handy at lower levels while Science can apparently do anything

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Suffice to say Reed's scientific prowess is hard to beat but it's hard for me to see someone like Mxy not being able to warp any device Reed brings to the table.

I know I went cross company but I'm really just generally speaking in terms of magic and science going toe to toe against each other.

Science and magic are both pretty much plot devices. It really depends on what the writer prefers to use as his excuse for crazy bullshit. For a long time magic was the go to for this, but in modern continuity, science is utilized more often. Especially with beings like Reed Richards.