Top 10 Jedi

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At 7.54 Scourge says Vitiate will recover quickly and the Hero can't afford to go save anyone. At 27.45 the confrontation with Vitiate occurs and he says the Hero dissipated his energy saving Kira earlier in the video. Note the lightning and clones at the start of the fight. If you didn't go to save Kira he doesn't use them:

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First, Scourge merely points out he will quickly regain back his power not that he will regain all of it back.

Furthermore, in the DS vid we see Vitiate say that the JK has gained little in sacrificing his/her friends.

And finally, according to this, Vitiate is still weakened when confronted in the LS ending.

I didn't say he did, but he did regain at least some of it, so he was not as weakened as you're making out. Plus Scourge says that he'll gather his power with time.

Yet we see it affected him, as he isn't able to attack the Hero with lightning nor conjure his clones at the start.

That doesn't indicate he was still weakened. Thats just the text you get at the start of the mission. It doesn't need to apply throughout. Plus its only detailing that you've learned he's weakened. And it also notes it temporary. I'm not saying he was fully recovered, but theres nothing indicating he wasn't.

Sure there is. Check that link I posted.

Click choice 2 (which is the light side option where he saves Kira) and choose 4, it says:

"You've learned that the Emperor is on Dromund Kaas, temporarily weakened by your efforts thwarting his plan for galactic annihilation. Striking at him now is your best chance to defeat him once and for all. While your other companions risk their lives to draw off the Imperial forces, you and T7 need to confront the Emperor himself."

So, yeah, Vitiate is still weakened after saving Kira.

Nah. Its just detailing what you've learned in that first line. The second line is the only one that actually changes.

Interesting things said in these Quest descriptions:

'The Emperor lies beaten at your feet. For all his power, he was no match for you. Now you must decide his ultimate fate.'

The text seems to imply that it was the HoT's power that was the deciding fctor and that he was 'no match' for her.

Well, yeah. The HoT beat Vitiate. So ultimately he wasn't a match for her.

Alright, I've revised a bit.

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Yoda
3. Kyp Durron
4. Revan/Hero of Tython
5. Revan/Hero of Tython
6. Nomi Sunrider
7. Mace Windu/Satele Shan
8. Mace Windu/Satele Shan
9. The Barsen'thor
10. Kyle Katarn(Should Jaina/Ben.S/Mara be above him?)

i wouldn't put nomi at 6, as most (if not all) the people below her would defeat her in combat.

Okay, I am seriously doubting that Katarn is going to beat Nomi in combat, but whatever.

Anyways, perhaps she's slightly lacking in run-of-the-mill one on one combat powers, but she makes up for it in out-of-the-box powers like Battle Meditation and Mind Tricks which were exceedingly powerful, and she became the strongest Jedi in the Order in a very, very short time, having wielded her saber like a master upon the second time using it. She's just beastly through-and-through. Perhaps she should be ranked lower, but I have a hard time putting her under Satele.

Ill probably lower her at some point, I'm just minorly obsessed with the character at the moment.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Okay, I am seriously doubting that Katarn is going to beat Nomi in combat, but whatever.

Anyways, perhaps she's slightly lacking in run-of-the-mill one on one combat powers, but she makes up for it in out-of-the-box powers like Battle Meditation and Mind Tricks which were exceedingly powerful, and she became the strongest Jedi in the Order in a very, very short time, having wielded her saber like a master upon the second time using it. She's just beastly through-and-through. Perhaps she should be ranked lower, but I have a hard time putting her under Satele.

Ill probably lower her at some point, I'm just minorly obsessed with the character at the moment.

hence why i said most

windu/barsen/ maybe satele are probably above nomi

no worries, there's was a point where i was minorly obsessed with durron/plagueis🙂

I'm also minorly obsessed with Caedus. Must know more about him.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'm also minorly obsessed with Caedus. Must know more about him.

i still maintain that caedus was one of the top 5 most powerful sith in existence

I agree with that sentiment.

Caedus isn't even in my Top 10. estahuh

so you think 10+ Sith are beating the crap out of Luke?

Yes, if Luke fights as recklessly and as badly as he did in that fight. I've said before that I don't count giving Luke hell as impressive given how inconsistent he is. One moment he's pwning Jacen with the Force, the next they're fighting somewhat equally.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Caedus isn't even in my Top 10. estahuh

I've beaten your ass down every time you've tried making this point. Caedus has been confirmed to be above Vader in power - that you don't take well to his character shouldn't affect your evaluation of his abilities.

Confirmed by a blurb. BFD. Frankly Vader has far superior showings than Caedus, and I rate him above his grandson.