Originally posted by Nephthys
Reading a little higher, the building is only about 6 floors high. Impressive, yes, but not that much.
Really? You got the quote? Because it was a Coruscanti building and those things should be huge. Ah well.
Anyway, here is the one from Death Star pg 73:
"Vader inhaled, holding the dry and slightly bitter air for as long as his scarred lungs could manage it. When he allowed the breath to be drawn from him by the respirator, he thrust his right hand toward a nearby mirror.
The aluminized densecris shattered into a thousand pieces, struck by the dark side as if by a metal fist.
Vader was aware of the "unbreakable" substance splintering and falling, tinkling onto the floor, myriad reflections sparkling in the light as they seemed to move in slow motion. At the same time, the Force alerted him to the presence of someone in the doorway behind him."
Vader and Tycho meet on the sixth floor, with Tycho actually being on the seventh. Theres no mention of the building being any higher.
Yeah, well, the Barsen'thor shattered a Rakatan Vault door. Given that the Rakatans have unparallelled technology, its likely the door's metal is comparably tough.
Originally posted by Master Han
You're right, then. Barsen'thor has this in the bag.
Serious?
Edit: Slight typo, the actual quote is that he 'possesses terrifying power.'
Nah, Galen is above Vader in terms of the Force. In the first game and book he decisively beats Vader with the Force, ragdolling and smashing things into him in both versions. In the second game Vaders trying to push him off the platform with his pillar and Galens able to resist it, pull another pillar out of the ground while resisting Vaders own pillar, then throw Vaders pillar away and pwn him with the lightning generated by his pillar.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well yeah, but that was like, a dozen capital ships firing on it at the same time. And the Star Forge was only a factory. The vault door was specifically built for durability.
By contrast, a dozen capital ships would do nothing to the Death Star's shields.
Ultimately, the Rakatan tech seems to be primarily based on the force and not science. Heck, even their hyperdrives worked via the force. So I'm doubtful that the metal on their gates will be superior to a metal that is described as "unbreakable" during the Empire era.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Nah, Galen is above Vader in terms of the Force. In the first game and book he decisively beats Vader with the Force, ragdolling and smashing things into him in both versions. In the second game Vaders trying to push him off the platform with his pillar and Galens able to resist it, pull another pillar out of the ground while resisting Vaders own pillar, then throw Vaders pillar away and pwn him with the lightning generated by his pillar.
Still, I see noting to suggest Barsen'thor is above Vader in the Force. He is good, but not quite up there.
Originally posted by Stigma
Perhaps. Though I was under the impression their figths were always equal to the point.Still, I see noting to suggest Barsen'thor is above Vader in the Force. He is good, but not quite up there.
Starkiller holds a slight advantage throughout both fights. However, according to TFU II novel, Vader was holding back in the second fight as he didn't want to kill SK.
Originally posted by ares834
By contrast, a dozen capital ships would do nothing to the Death Star's shields.Ultimately, the Rakatan tech seems to be primarily based on the force and not science. Heck, even their hyperdrives worked via the force. So I'm doubtful that the metal on their gates will be superior to a metal that is described as "unbreakable" during the Empire era.
Yeah yeah.
Meh, I disagree. Rakatan tech is always shown to be way more advanced than anything else in Star Wars, even the stuff that doesn't work on the Force. SWTORE claims that they possessed 'galaxy-altering technology' which they stored on Belsavis and calls their technology 'supreme.' Theres also the fact that they defeated and contained a being that eats suns.
By the way, the section on Belsavis also calls its vaults 'impregnable' on two occasions.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Meh, I disagree. Rakatan tech is always shown to be way more advanced than anything else in Star Wars,
Wouldn't explain why their empire was so small as a result of their limited hyperspace technology.
SWTORE claims that they possessed 'galaxy-altering technology'
That's...sort of vague.
Theres also the fact that they defeated and contained a being that eats suns.
SW superweapons can destroy suns.
By the way, the section on Belsavis also calls its vaults 'impregnable' on two occasions.
So does what Vader destroys in Death Star.
Except, Raktan tech isn't superior. For example, their hyperdrives are shit when compared to the current hyperdrives as they are only able to traverse to worlds strong in the force.
Now, I'll admit the Star Forge is probably one of the most impressive pieces of tech ever in the galaxy. But their star ships and droids aren't shown to be nearly at that level.
As for the vaults being impregnable, that doesn't mean that the gates the Counciler pushed open were.
The door is called a 'Vault door' by the quest text.
Originally posted by Master Han
Wouldn't explain why their empire was so small as a result of their limited hyperspace technology.That's...sort of vague.
SW superweapons can destroy suns.
So does what Vader destroys in Death Star.
Meh, so they weren't the best at everything. The only reason Republic hyperdrives are so great is because they're based on Rakatan hyperdrives.
Sort of vague is still sort of AWESOME!
That isn't the same as eating one. Besides, Rakatan tech has the energy throughput of suns.
Hence why I compared the two feats.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Meh, so they weren't the best at everything. The only reason Republic hyperdrives are so great is because they're based on Rakatan hyperdrives.
True, true. I forgot that experts typically rank the Roman military above that of the United States, given how much we borrow from them. Sadly, scientists still haven't woken up and re-adopted Galileo's conception of physics, given how much our understanding borrows from his.
Sort of vague is still sort of AWESOME!
True, true. The Mayas were especially powerful, harnessing their vagueness to create the most powerful military force, past, present and future.
That isn't the same as eating one.
You're right.
It's better.
Besides, Rakatan tech has the energy throughput of suns.
So do super star destroyers.
Hence why I compared the two feats.
Hmmm.
Originally posted by Master Han
True, true. I forgot that experts typically rank the Roman military above that of the United States, given how much we borrow from them. Sadly, scientists still haven't woken up and re-adopted Galileo's conception of physics, given how much our understanding borrows from his.
Lol. You pointed out the Rakatans weak hyperdrives as evidence their tech sucks, so I countered by pointing out that the only reason the Republic possesses superior hyperdrive tech is becaus ethey copied hyperdrive tech from the Rakatans and refined it. That doesn't apply to other aspects of their respective technologies.
Originally posted by Master Han
True, true. The Mayas were especially powerful, harnessing their vagueness to create the most powerful military force, past, present and future.
If the Mayans had artifacts that could affect the entire planet, damn straight would they be powerful.
Originally posted by Master Han
You're right.It's better.
No it isn't. Destabalising a star is leagues less impressive than siphoning and containing the energy of one.
Originally posted by Master Han
So do super star destroyers.
So do Rakatan mind-traps.