Barsen'thor vs Darth Caedus (Force)

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol. You pointed out the Rakatans weak hyperdrives as evidence their tech sucks, so I countered by pointing out that the only reason the Republic possesses superior hyperdrive tech is becaus ethey copied hyperdrive tech from the Rakatans and refined it. That doesn't apply to other aspects of their respective technologies.

Which means the Republic is far more scientifically advanced in this case.

Ultimately though, I haven't seen anything that puts Rakatan tech anywhere near as having as much fire power or defensive capabilities as the Empire's. And that is what should matter when talking about "unbreakable" metals.

And once again, just because a vault is supposedly impenetrable does not mean that the Vault's gate is made of an "indestructible" metal.

BTW,

B.'s feats are impressive... but I'm actually not seeing anything beyond Vader.

They took down a being who ate suns. sneer

Also the good ol' Swtore says that if Soa The Infernal One or the World Razer ever got out, it would spell certain doom for the galaxy. And that the Infinite Empire was 'powerful beyond measure.'

Originally posted by The_Tempest
BTW,

B.'s feats are impressive... but I'm actually not seeing anything beyond Vader.


oh definitely not, i think vader's force feats, especially with tk, are greater than barsen's

Originally posted by Nephthys
They took down a being who ate suns. sneer

Also the good ol' Swtore says that if Soa The Infernal One or the World Razer ever got out, it would spell certain doom for the galaxy. And that the Infinite Empire was 'powerful beyond measure.'

...Palpatine's Empire would still wreck them.

Yeah....

Originally posted by Nephthys
They took down a being who ate suns. sneer

Also the good ol' Swtore says that if Soa The Infernal One or the World Razer ever got out, it would spell certain doom for the galaxy. And that the Infinite Empire was 'powerful beyond measure.'

Except they weren't. The Infinite Empire held at their peak around a mere 500 worlds and were unable to conquer Tython.

As for Soa, the guy was beat by around a dozen Jedi/Sith something tells me he isn't going to be as big of a threat as SWTORE makes him out to be.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
oh definitely not, i think vader's force feats, especially with tk, are greater than barsen's

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and if caedus is stronger in the force than vader....

Vader's got some pretty badass feats in the WII TFU game and its sequel.

🙂

Originally posted by The_Tempest
BTW,

B.'s feats are impressive... but I'm actually not seeing anything beyond Vader.

I see beating Vivicar as being above what Vader could do personally. In the same situation I doubt he'd have managed it. Remember that most of the Barsen'thors feats are while severely weakened.

Can someone explain how Windu and Dooku are supposed to be equals, yet Windu barley beat Sora and Dooku pwned Sora who had the help of Tholme?.

I was wondering what people had to say about that.

because apparently they stalemated in a very brief duel

Edit: this is my line of logic for why vader > windu

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol. You pointed out the Rakatans weak hyperdrives as evidence their tech sucks, so I countered by pointing out that the only reason the Republic possesses superior hyperdrive tech is becaus ethey copied hyperdrive tech from the Rakatans and refined it. That doesn't apply to other aspects of their respective technologies.

Then explain how they're superior.


If the Mayans had artifacts that could affect the entire planet, damn straight would they be powerful.

😆 LOL, wut?

"affect the entire planet" my ass.

No it isn't. Destabalising a star is leagues less impressive than siphoning and containing the energy of one.

A medium star outputs around e26 watts. The Executor already matches such levels of power - it basically carries a star in its reactor.


So do Rakatan mind-traps.

What are they?

Originally posted by Master Han
Then explain how they're superior.

Ok.

I was just playing the Inquisitor campaign and I ran into a machine that created the Twilek, Zabrak, Rattataki and Esh'ka species'.

Created. The. Species. :I

The Rakata took down beings that ate suns and had tech that can affect the galaxy and create species. Swtore says that if Soa or the World Razer got out they could solo the TOR-era, and the Rakata took them down.

Originally posted by Master Han
😆 LOL, wut?

"affect the entire planet" my ass.

facepalm

I was speaking in terms of the example, not the Rakata you goon. In the Mayans could affect an entire planet to us that would be super advanced right? Just the Rakata being able to affect the entire galaxy is super advanced compared to the Star Wars level of tech.

Originally posted by Master Han
A medium star outputs around e26 watts. The Executor already matches such levels of power - it basically carries a star in its reactor.

Proof of that?

Originally posted by Master Han
What are they?

Exactly what the name entails. Boxes that trap the consciousness of a being inside it. On Tatooine Czerka found one and learned that it possessed the energy throughput of a sun.

Originally posted by Nephthys
[B]Ok.

I was just playing the Inquisitor campaign and I ran into a machine that created the Twilek, Zabrak, Rattataki and Esh'ka species'.

Created. The. Species. :I

The Rakata took down beings that ate suns and had tech that can affect the galaxy and create species. Swtore says that if Soa or the World Razer got out they could solo the TOR-era, and the Rakata took them down.

Creating species is cake with PT era cloning technology.

facepalm

I was speaking in terms of the example, not the Rakata you goon. In the Mayans could affect an entire planet to us that would be super advanced right? Just the Rakata being able to affect the entire galaxy is super advanced compared to the Star Wars level of tech.

Shifting the goalpost to vague "affect the galaxy!" accolade aside, affecting planets is nothing by the standards of the modern SW era. Heck, it's nothing in context of TOR era. You need to do better than that.


Proof of that?

Star Wars: Complete Locations.


Exactly what the name entails. Boxes that trap the consciousness of a being inside it.

Not impressive by SW standards...

On Tatooine Czerka found one and learned that it possessed the energy throughput of a sun.

Dude, we just went over this; modern SW technology can output the energy of a sun. The Death Star's hypermatter reactor has the power output of several hundred super-giant stars.

Originally posted by Master Han
Creating species is cake with PT era cloning technology.

Lol, no it ****ing isn't.

Originally posted by Master Han
Shifting the goalpost to vague "affect the galaxy!" accolade aside, affecting planets is nothing by the standards of the modern SW era. Heck, it's nothing in context of TOR era. You need to do better than that.

I'm not shifting the goalpost, that was the original goalpost. Then you made a dumb joke about 'yeah the Mayans were awesome too' to which I replied that if the Mayans possessed the capability to affect the entire planet yes we would consider them awesome, just like the Rakatans possessing technology that can affect the galaxy would be considered awesome compared to SW level of tech.

Affecting planets has nothing to do with the Rakatans. They're stated to have technology that can affect the galaxy. The thing about planets was me responding to an analogy you made! Jesus, keep up.

Originally posted by Master Han
Star Wars: Complete Locations.

hoss

Ok, that checks out. But the Executor is a hundred times bigger than regular Star Destroyers so it clearly exceptional.

Originally posted by Master Han
Not impressive by SW standards...

I didn't say it was. In fact, that such a small and irrelevant thing houses so much power speaks of the Rakatans capabilities.

Originally posted by Master Han
Dude, we just went over this; modern SW technology can output the energy of a sun.

Yeah, and so can Rakatan tech. And not just in things made to be as retardedly enormous as possible.

Don't forget that the Rakatan's inherited the Kwa's stuff too after they overthrew them, AKA: Star Temples. Basically a Force Storm capable of swallowing the entire star system it's on sealed in a gate. It can also teleport someone anywhere in the Galaxy and shoot Infinty Waves which can destroy planets as easily as the DS can. And the Kwa had many if these gates.

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The Rakata themselves have teleport technology, probably stolen from the Kwa know I think about it.