Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
ik that. But he'd still hurt him. Reed is a frigging genius. as sue thing and jhonny fight he could create something to kill DD or throw him into sun.....now HP dm Reed needs HUGE prep
None of them are fast enough, DD was able to react to the Flash like it was nothing.
Originally posted by SquallXIt's pretty well known that Doomsday can adapt to what he's being attacked with. Is Doomsday hitting Flash more of an evolved ability, rather than an indicator of natural speed? Are there any scans of someone with a known speed actually dodging an attack from Doomsday?
None of them are fast enough, DD was able to react to the Flash like it was nothing.
Originally posted by kgkg
PIS/CISIntelligent like Reed is harder to write than super speed.
Yes, I imagine, it is hard to write super smart, but there could be a limit to it. Even if he is a genius he cannot possible know everything or figure it out everything (well of course he can in comics) but on a forum fight what will he be able to figure it out?
Some feats of Reed DO LOOK more like bad writing, like you said, super intelligence is harder to write, I agree with you.
Come to think of it, it will be interesting to see what is the general opinion about Super intelligence and what limits has. Can Reed or Doom be considered more intelligent than say Galactus, or Odin? I think not, even if it has been shown, because how can someone know more than a nigh omniscient?
Originally posted by Brockalizer
One problem with that, Reed seems to be more concerned with curing Banner of the Hulk then he is with defeating him once and for all.
Unless Reed learns the Speed Force formula while accessing Watchtower's computer, I think DD should win pretty handily.
I agree, but I do think that Reed should have already have found a cure for Hulk and Thing, of course WE know this is not going to happen
Of course there is always the BFR option the FF will have, and I think in that case FF should win.
But physically, this should be a win for DD
That could be a piece of data the FF should get, that the best option to deal with DD is BFR, in that case the FF should win
Originally posted by Brockalizer
It's pretty well known that Doomsday can adapt to what he's being attacked with. Is Doomsday hitting Flash more of an evolved ability, rather than an indicator of natural speed? Are there any scans of someone with a known speed actually dodging an attack from Doomsday?
DOS DD didn't have on the fly evolution, that was HP DD.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElReed has created plot devices that have defeated and/or subdued the Hulk multiple times.
As for the thread, if it goes like in comics, the FF will fare worse then when they go against the HULK.They had like 40 + years of data on the Hulk and they still struggle with him, so unless Reed pulls a TOAA killer because the plot dictates, I think DD takes this.
Also by now Reed should have figure out a way to defeat hulk, but then again in comics He does not. is always the plot in any case.
Imo anyway
Originally posted by svexis he new here?
DOOMSDAY FTW.
THING IS A non-factor here, so is torch. sue can't handle such power.
she will be dead meat.
reed now, with prep, he might be able to stop him a lot but eventually he will be only surprised to see doomsday coming outta all and ending him .
the end DOOMSDAY😄OFF
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElThe guy went to the other side of the universe, put a micro galaxy inside a ring, and then went back in time to celebrate his anniversary so him and Sue could watch them first meeting...
Yes, I imagine, it is hard to write super smart, but there could be a limit to it. Even if he is a genius he cannot possible know everything or figure it out everything (well of course he can in comics) but on a forum fight what will he be able to figure it out?Some feats of Reed DO LOOK more like bad writing, like you said, super intelligence is harder to write, I agree with you.
Come to think of it, it will be interesting to see what is the general opinion about Super intelligence and what limits has. Can Reed or Doom be considered more intelligent than say Galactus, or Odin? I think not, even if it has been shown, because how can someone know more than a nigh omniscient?
More so than Odin, not Galactus. It's already been shown Galactus' tech is way above Reed and Doom's. Galactus actually prepping would be pointless in comics due to how high that'd be. Mind you we seen that when Doom had his powers and beat PR Beyonder
Odin is wiser though.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Straight up fight, Doomsday wins. People like the Thing and Sue would get annihilated.If Reed has any sort of access to his gear, then F4 win, obviously.
With 24 hours prep and access to JLA files, his plan would not include simply fighting him straight up. There likely would not even be a fight.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElIt's hard to limit someone who can create devices to siphon energy from an entire universe , create tools that could kill abstracts level beings etc.
Yes, I imagine, it is hard to write super smart, but there could be a limit to it. Even if he is a genius he cannot possible know everything or figure it out everything (well of course he can in comics) but on a forum fight what will he be able to figure it out?
as for how does he stop DOS Doomsday- a KO would suffice and that is well within Reeds capabilities. As for your Hulk example he has stopped the Hulk using tech before.
The argument here is if he is so smart why did he fail in X , Y , Z situations. Most of those can be explained by PIS like Reed not even using the tools he has shown in the past to take down the same opponent.
Some feats of Reed DO LOOK more like bad writing, like you said, super intelligence is harder to write, I agree with you.
Come to think of it, it will be interesting to see what is the general opinion about Super intelligence and what limits has. Can Reed or Doom be considered more intelligent than say Galactus, or Odin? I think not, even if it has been shown, because how can someone know more than a nigh omniscient?I would say Reed is more innovative than Galactus and Odin. Even Galactus has acknowledged Reed universal intelligence.
I think if we use Full capacity there is no way Reed loses. Using averages -DOS Doomsday probably wins but using averages greatly diminishes attributes like Strength , Speed etc for all comic book characters.