Originally posted by Damborgsonthing fights hulk and gets the upper hand until he gets tired and hulk gets stronger. Thing has gone to small feats of strength like throwing cars All the way to the epic feat of picking up a whole freaking skyscraper. Trust. He'd harm DOS doomsday
Pretty sure he wouldn't.
i imagine the fight going like this...Reed at the start wraps around Doomsday so the Thing can start landing hits...then Reed leaves leaving Invisible Woman to turn the Thing invisible while Human torch does whatever to help the Thing...i mean i know this boils down to what Reed Richards inventions but this is how i think they can buy the most time
Originally posted by ODGYes he was amazed by Taa II –the ship was as large as a solar system with a real life world features such as forest , oceans etc...Hard to be not amazed by something like that.
Weren't a few seconds of being in Galactus' Worldship enough to stagger Reed into dumbfounded silence during Secret Wars?
Reed's intelligence in the grand sceme has improved a lot since Secret Wars. This was a time when Galactus's acknowledge alone was a dumbfounded moment for Reed.
Reed isn't smart enough to cure cancer, cure Banner, create good anti Hulk weapon to put him down for good yet he has ridiculous feats(just like any comic character which is PIS) that don't play with his feats on official crossovers or nowadays comics. Was it Reed who stopped rampaging Thing empowered by Serpent, was it Reed who stopped anything in our world or build a machine that could take away powers of super criminals? He did nothing against them, he can't.
I can't see any option to throw DD insto space or harm him. Even in DOS DD is evolving, DD is faster then Superman, DD is stronger than Superman, DD flattened Justice League(with tones of different abilities) AND Superman. There is no way FF would be any threat.
Originally posted by ClayWormReed has done all the above the only reason why these can't be applied permanently is due to plot.1.) Ben is the Thing so he can't be cured permanently. Reed has cured him momentary many times. 2.) Reed has also cured cancer again they can't make this world wide due to plot reasons --- Stories needs to be relevant to real life and cancer is a real problem in today's world. 3.) Reed has created anti Hulk weapons lol.
Reed isn't smart enough to cure cancer, cure Banner, create good anti Hulk weapon to put him down for good
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The guy went to the other side of the universe, put a micro galaxy inside a ring, and then went back in time to celebrate his anniversary so him and Sue could watch them first meeting...
He's pretty handy when it comes to tech, and smartsMore so than Odin, not Galactus. It's already been shown Galactus' tech is way above Reed and Doom's. Galactus actually prepping would be pointless in comics due to how high that'd be. Mind you we seen that when Doom had his powers and beat PR Beyonder
Odin is wiser though.
You see? this is what I mean.
How come a guy can go to the other side of the universe and back in time and still he acknowledges that He cannot find a way to stop the Hulk or miscalculates that a Thor clone will go rogue?
I mean when it comes to the forum some character perform well above their tier.
Yes and Doom defeating PR Beyonder is PIS for the PR Beyonder, all and all a being of that much power will not even have the need of curiosity and will create a charade to study the human race in the whole multiverse. IMO anyway
Originally posted by kgkg
It's hard to limit someone who can create devices to siphon energy from an entire universe , create tools that could kill abstracts level beings etc.as for how does he stop DOS Doomsday- a KO would suffice and that is well within Reeds capabilities. As for your Hulk example he has stopped the Hulk using tech before.
The argument here is if he is so smart why did he fail in X , Y , Z situations. Most of those can be explained by PIS like Reed not even using the tools he has shown in the past to take down the same opponent.
This is like Flash struggling against Gorilla Grodd even though he has shown FTL reaction speed.
I would say Reed is more innovative than Galactus and Odin. Even Galactus has acknowledged Reed universal intelligence.
I think if we use Full capacity there is no way Reed loses. Using averages -DOS Doomsday probably wins but using averages greatly diminishes attributes like Strength , Speed etc for all comic book characters.
I believe PIS or bad writing works in both ways. Honestly killing abstracts. I mean Superman has defeated guys well above just by being smart, that does not mean I buy that. Because PIS is working in favor of Superman and against the other character. Killing an abstract being that is probably omniscient should fall into that category. IMO
I mean, yes I can believe that in one in a million chance the FF defeated Galactus because they found Galactus UN. but that's it.
And while I could see how Reed could come up with something to stops DD (after all 24 hrs of prep time and access to all his gear of years), what I will like to know, is how much are We willing to accept feats like the ones writers apply to beings operating well above their tier.