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let me ask you: do you think average jedi from TOR era > average jedi from PT era?

I dunno. In what capacity?

lightsaber prowess, force ability

I think its certainly possible.

but i believe it's canonically stated that the PT era > all other eras, due to the fact that having 1000 years of peace helped the jedi gain a greater oneness with the ligtside of the force, almost perfecting their martial training, etc.

I don't believe thats true.

In fact the Force had been thrown out of balance favoring the darkside so its stupid to think the PT-era would have a stronger connection than ever before. Mace clearly says that their ability to use the Force had diminished. Its also true that their martial prowess had stagnated, since they no longer had to face lightsaber wielding opponents. Makashi was an extreme rarity because of this and as the quote on the last page showed the majority of the Order favored Soresu because of its focus against blaster wielding opponents. So its illogical to think the era would be the best at lightsaber combat. The majority never faced a lightsaber in their lives.

Personally I think that the idea of the PT Jedi being the best is horseshit, since the very point of the Prequels is that the Jedi sucked ass.

nah man, their vision had only been clouded when palpatine came into power, so they still had that 1000 years to grow more powerful.

Too bad they didn't.

um, yeah they did. you've got:

yoda
mace
dooku (before he went sithee)
The Chosen One, Anakin
agen kolar/saesee tiin/kit fisto/obi wan/Plo Koon (all swordmasters)

the jedi council of the PT in general > TOR council

That doesn't prove anything. I thought you had an actual source that they grew in power, not mere supposition. Its canon that the Jedi's power was diminished.

GL states that the PT era = Golden age of the jedi order, which is backed up by

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
um, yeah they did. you've got:

yoda
mace
dooku (before he went sithee)
The Chosen One, Anakin
agen kolar/saesee tiin/kit fisto/obi wan/Plo Koon (all swordmasters)

the jedi council of the PT in general > TOR council

oh btw, does this forum have "battle cages" where only 2 people can argue each other for one side or the other?

The golden age of the jedi doesn't preclude the fact that many from the TOR era are better than the PT era.

the top dogs of the PT era are better than the top dogs from TOR era:

palpatine>vitiate
Yoda>HoT

of course HoT > average PT master, but you have to compare evenly, top dog to top dog, scrub to scrub

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
oh btw, does this forum have "battle cages" where only 2 people can argue each other for one side or the other? [/B]

yes

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
let me ask you: do you think average jedi from TOR era > average jedi from PT era?

IMO, the average Jedi with battle experience > the average Jedi without. By the end of the CW, most of the Jedi had been in a good amount of fighting and aren't disadvantaged there (though mostly against blaster-using foes, but not entirely, there was a big group of sword-using cloned assassins that the CIS churned out in large number in a multi-month siege that many many Jedi were involved in), plus the CW era had very good training and the largest recruitment pool, so they aren't to be underestimated.

Originally posted by Q99
IMO, the average Jedi with battle experience > the average Jedi without.

Indeed, which applies more for the TOR-era than the PT-era, since they have experience fighting actual lightsaber-wielding opponents, both in the Great War, the Cold War and the war in TOR. Whereas the PT-era does not, since as you say most of their fighting was against retarded droids. And since we're talking about lightsaber prowess.....

Furthermore, the TOR-era Order is a lot bigger than the PT-era.

Originally posted by Nephthys

Furthermore, the TOR-era Order is a lot bigger than the PT-era.

Is it? In the PT they've had a long time to accumulate size and a lot less casualties before the CW. My impression was the PT Jedi was the largest of the orders.

The PT is 10,000 Jedi strong right? The Jedi of TOR were in the millions. Thats hundreds of times larger surely.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The PT is 10,000 Jedi strong right? The Jedi of TOR were in the millions. Thats hundreds of times larger surely.

100,000, iirc. Even Legacy era might hit 10k.

And millions? It actually said that many somewhere?