Superman Prime( Guardian Amp) VS Odin: SLUGFEST

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus26 pages
Originally posted by wolverinos
post odin being knocked the **** out and dying after the headbutt.
Thats the MAX odin can do with his amp, physically damaging galactus? as far as i remember even thor was able to accomplish that by flying straight into his head.
this is nothing that Puts odin physically on Prime level, let alone GA.
Originally posted by wolverinos
what a mook.
Odin knocked himself out on galactus and galactus was fine after that, he wasnt knocked out, maybe a moment out of the battle.
Thor accomplished same thing actually when flying straight into galactus only without the dying Part.

This guy comes off like that crazy hobo at the end of the street rambling about the end days.

First of all, Odin affected Galactus significantly more then Thor in that he actually knocked him out. Not only that, but Odin was actually conscious before Galactus despite the World Eater recovering better in the end.

Also, where are you getting this nonsense that Odin was dead? He entered the Odin Sleep, and even that was revealed to be a ruse so he could summon the Destroyer.

Originally posted by carver9
Thats one time out of a million. The rest of the fights, Conner took it to Prime. At one point, prime ran from him.

Still trying to make a case for the murder victim I see. Damn.....I'd sure hate to witness the Prime bashing had it been the other way around and Conner actually managed to bring Prime to death or something close to it.

Odin

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
ABBERATION.

That is the operative word here.

If you say so, but Odin would never have had the problems against the guys that prime did.

SBP ftw

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
How did Prime perform against 30 plus Gl's?

How did Prime perform against Superman?

What was Prime's general depiction of power in LEGION OF 3 WORLDS?

Fodder GLs are fodder. Guy was about to open a can of whoop-ass too.

Against a Superman who was holding back? Better than he did against a Superboy gong all-out. So you're telling me that Superboy Prime's average is somewhere between holding back Superman and all-out Superboy. Ok. Not actually what I was trying to prove... but, ok.

Sh1tting his pants when Conner and Bart showed up like he did in Infinite Crisis and Teen Titans. Once might be an aberration. Twice might be coincidence. Three times is a pattern.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Why are you making a big deal about "holding back" when in your own words you said Prime held back when he wrecked Superboy + Krypto? That makes the feat even more majestic. I'm gonna need confirmation that Conner held back. Even if you do manage to find that confirmation, your point is moot because the second time when Conner came back, he was out for blood, had help from Wondergirl, and still got wrecked yet again.
Because Superboy Prime wasn't holding back anymore, per his own words, which applies to the three times he fought Conner outside of the initial Smallville ambush. That conversation/revelation is the same one as Conner holding back. Reread Infinite Crisis.

Originally posted by wolverinos
dude.. i will make it simple for you.
if you cant present any kind of evidence, that Prime was losing his amp because of the fight with monarch, and not because of Time factor... then STFU.
I don't recall inviting discussion with a block of wood.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This guy comes off like that crazy hobo at the end of the street rambling about the end days.

I guess he thinks that if he's an aggressive *******, he'll be more respected?

Originally posted by Stoic
If you say so, but Odin would never have had the problems against the guys that prime did.

Prime wasn't depicted in connection with his true power level.

Originally posted by ODG
Fodder GLs are fodder. Guy was about to open a can of whoop-ass too.

Against a Superman who was holding back? Better than he did against a Superboy gong all-out. So you're telling me that Superboy Prime's average is somewhere between holding back Superman and all-out Superboy. Ok. Not actually what I was trying to prove... but, ok.

Sh1tting his pants when Conner and Bart showed up like he did in Infinite Crisis and Teen Titans. Once might be an aberration. Twice might be coincidence. Three times is a pattern.

Rank an all out Superboy Prime please in relation to Superman and Conner.

After your answer I will know how to approach the argument in a better manner.

At present I think you are dangerously close to lowballing, Sir. 😎

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Prime wasn't depicted in connection with his true power level.

So when the Flashes came and mugged him that was just Prime holding back right? There's only so many times that things like that can happen before people begin to raise an eyebrow. So before you go thinking that I'm trying to low-ball him take what I said into consideration.

Originally posted by Stoic
If you say so, but Odin would never have had the problems against the guys that prime did.

Didn't Odin have problems with Trolls once? 😈

Look to Gorr: The God Butcher. All three of the Thor's got in their licks, despite the fact they should have had vastly different power levels.. Young Thor especially was just using (What appeared to be) a common war hammer, and knocking Gorr into moons post power up.

Not too unlike what happened to Superboy Prime across his appearances. But in the end, you needed a plot device to really stop or slow SBP down.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Rank an all out Superboy Prime please in relation to Superman and Conner.

After your answer I will know how to approach the argument in a better manner.

At present I think you are dangerously close to lowballing, Sir. 😎

Strong enough to kick around a Superman who held back and not quite strong enough to definitively stomp an all-out Superboy.

Not at least without considerable effort, etc.

Superman Prime does what Superman Prime does.

Originally posted by cdtm
Didn't Odin have problems with Trolls once? 😈

Look to Gorr: The God Butcher. All three of the Thor's got in their licks, despite the fact they should have had vastly different power levels.. Young Thor especially was just using (What appeared to be) a common war hammer, and knocking Gorr into moons post power up.

Not that I recall.

Superboy and Bart did more than just get licks in. They sent Superboy Prime packing. Gorr didn't sh1t his pants when young Thor or his plucky teen teammate young Hermod came around. Gorr pretty much beat the crap out of all three incarnations, individually and collectively, in definitive fashion. Especially after he bonded with is weapon.

Originally posted by cdtm
Not too unlike what happened to Superboy Prime across his appearances. But in the end, you needed a plot device to really stop or slow SBP down.
Teen Titans are a plot device?

Originally posted by ODG
Teen Titans are a plot device?

Well, I can't comment on the Titans issues, as I haven't read them. That's how it was in the core Infinite Crisis, Sinestro Corp War, and Legion stories though.

^ Long story short: they beat the sh1t out of him straight up. Along with his small army of clones. Monarch also beat up an amped Superman Prime straight up.

Odin stomps. No contest. Prime as usual is being grossly overrated with little substance behind his hype.

Originally posted by vince_slice
You said Prime could physically damage Galactus. You never answered whether or not he can [b]knock out Galactus.

But apparently you think regular SBP can knock out Galactus. When has he ever shown the power to knock out someone on Galactus' level? [/B]

prove that odin knocked out Galactus. Thor did worst to Galactic so I guess Galactus durability was shit in that comic. So of course prime would do worst to Galactic based off what Thor did.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you think old guys are able to manhandle a guy much younger than themselves with one hand, and dispose of them so effortlessly without being stronger than them at all?
if there is no resistance then manhandling is irrelevant. Thor didn't attempt to stop odin from manhandling him.

Originally posted by h1a8
prove that odin knocked out Galactus. Thor did worst to Galactic so I guess Galactus durability was shit in that comic. So of course prime would do worst to Galactic based off what Thor did.

Nope

Originally posted by h1a8
if there is no resistance then manhandling is irrelevant. Thor didn't attempt to stop odin from manhandling him.

Nope

Odin is not going to grow to a giant to fight a human sized being. So the Galactus feat is irrelevant