Superman Prime( Guardian Amp) VS Odin: SLUGFEST

Started by Sundipped26 pages
Originally posted by ODG
Because Superboy Prime wasn't holding back anymore, per his own words, which applies to the three times he fought Conner outside of the initial Smallville ambush. That conversation/revelation is the same one as Conner holding back. Reread Infinite Crisis.

I also remember a conversation where Prime confessed to not even trying when running through the JSA, Teen Titans etc. too. Now Conner is supposed to be some kind of major threat? Nope I don't think so....not even to a holding back Prime.

Originally posted by ODG
[B]Strong enough to kick around a Superman who held back and not quite strong enough to definitively stomp an all-out Superboy.

Not at least without considerable effort, etc.

Superman Prime does what Superman Prime does. Not that I recall.

Prime is below an all out Superman and barely above an all out Superboy.

Absolutely ridiculous!

Originally posted by Naija boy
Odin stomps. No contest. Prime as usual is being grossly overrated with little substance behind his hype.

How would you rank the power of the Guardian Amp in relation to Odin?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
How would you rank the power of the Guardian Amp in relation to Odin?

Well the Guardian Amp was him basically soaking up the released energies of that dying Guardian right? Not even in the same league. Guardian's are pathetic compared to Odin, have been for a while. Ganthet was the only one worth a damn.

But power ups don't always scale how we expect them to in comics. The powered up Prime would probably beat up the Guardians.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well the Guardian Amp was him basically soaking up the released energies of that dying Guardian right? Not even in the same league. Guardian's are pathetic compared to Odin, have been for a while. Ganthet was the only one worth a damn.

But power ups don't always scale how we expect them to in comics. The powered up Prime would probably beat up the Guardians.

I should have phrased the question better.

Given Prime's abilities and invulnerability to magic coupled with the stipulations, this IS a fight. When you add the Amp it places it on even ground IMO.

Naija's comments were dismissive of Prime's power in relation to the aforementioned issues and I wanted to find out why.

Originally posted by Galan007
Technically, that is the difference in strength between WM+PG Thor and Odin, no?

Yes, but who cares about context?

uhuh

Also ODG's hate for all things prime is amusing to say in the least.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Long story short: they beat the sh1t out of him straight up. Along with his small army of clones. Monarch also beat up an amped Superman Prime straight up.

I just found some the scans on another board:

Wow.. Prime got punked.

Why does it look like Supergirl have two fist in the first scene during her first punch.

^ Holy Broken Page, Batman!

Originally posted by Sundipped
I also remember a conversation where Prime confessed to not even trying when running through the JSA, Teen Titans etc. too. Now Conner is supposed to be some kind of major threat? Nope I don't think so....not even to a holding back Prime.
That was the same conversation where Conner told Prime he hadn't been trying either. After that, Conner gave him a decent tussle every single time. So I guess he wasn't just bs'ing.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Prime is below an all out Superman and barely above an all out Superboy.

Absolutely ridiculous!

Not what I said.

But if it makes you feel better, who cares?

Also, Supergirl and Superboy flew to the edge of the Universe. Nice speed ft.

Originally posted by carver9
Also, Supergirl and Superboy flew to the edge of the Universe. Nice speed ft.

Depends.

Can anybody on the team transport/teleport them great distances?

Or do they have access to boom tube tech?

Prime and the Titans had a few fight brief fights here and there across issues before that big beat down. Tried to get all of them.

Either way, Prime was definitely starting to suffer from villain decay. He was like a few years away from getting beat up by Wonder Girl/Superboy solo. Luckily with the reboot, if he does manage to come back, he'll have a clean slate. Anyways, he has no business even being in the same room as Odin.

Oh yeah. Add Red Star as another dude who's not been cut through by Prime's heat vision. Sorry Superman, need to step up your energy durability. 😛

Lol at Prime bringing a team to help him with the Titans.

Well on his own, he lasted like two pages? And it consisted of a nonstop beatdown.

I think the most embarrassing part is Wonder Girl being competitive with him and actually holding her own (The fight went off-panel for some time). I like him as someone who crushes any Earth based hero besides Superman who can survive for some time on his own. Everyone else needs to run or their f*cked. Is Wonder Girl even as strong as Colossus? I think that was stupid.

Pretty clear that he was being turned into a Titans villain and naturally that means he shouldn't be fighting the big dogs. We should be thankful he wasn't used again. He'd probably get punked by Wonder Woman or something equally dumb.

honestly I'd put Odin at fair odds with Lo3W Mordru and that incarnation was made Prime's *****.

Who wrote that? Was it Johns?

Kind of funny that once they're done with him, they throw him to the wolves. The writers must have hated him as much as the fans did.

Originally posted by Uriel005
honestly I'd put Odin at fair odds with Lo3W Mordru and that incarnation was made Prime's *****.

Mordru at his best could pretty powerful. At one it was said he had enough power in him to move Galaxies.

However, key word there is at his best.

Originally posted by cdtm
Who wrote that? Was it Johns?

Kind of funny that once they're done with him, they throw him to the wolves. The writers must have hated him as much as the fans did.

J.T. Krul.

Also, that's a weird name. Sounds like a Green Lantern villain from the 80's lol.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Mordru at his best could pretty powerful. At one it was said he had enough power in him to move Galaxies.

However, key word there is at his best.

Lo3W was lord of sorcerer's world thats pretty close to the top of his game.