Originally posted by wolverinosIt's the other way around. Gameplay is just that, a gameplay. It's cutscenes and canon intros that count. And judging by them he's superhuman.
Intros do not represent feats, intros are made to hype and make it look cool.
in the game itself jin is a very trained guy but nothing on Caps level.
Originally posted by wolverinosHwoarang has no on-screen canon feats. Only a couple of non-canon videos. Basically all we know about this guy feat wise is that he's capable of stalemating Jin. That's it. One can't use that as an argument to downplay Jin. Imagine some featless character shows up in comics and one shots Hulk. What will that prove? That Hulk is a weakling? Or maybe that the featless guy is a freaking beast? Same here.
what are his feats again? Hwoarang stalemated jin, and in one of his endings some thugs punched him and knocked him down, then his master beak interfered and owned them.
i dont recall Jin having any feats to put him anywhere near Cap in abilities.Devil jin presented high levels of power using his laser beam, however if thats the only thing he got against Cap he is going to get raped.
not everything that is japanese automatically better my friend.
EDIT: Im not some crazy anime fan who claims Goku > Galactus. In fact I don't even like Jin. But his feats are über. Devil J has laser beams, force fields, tk among other things. That's why I say he's too much.
The first video shows some durability feats from Jin in this Jin vs Heihachi vs Kazuya fight, 6:20 is around where the fight starts after Heihachi is done being a boss xD
An to be fair Devil Jin wouldn't be a pushover I mean here's Devil Jin vs Devil Kazuya,
4:16 and up you can see some speed from Jin.
Originally posted by SamZED
It ripped through the building as well. I never said that he wins solely based on the video, its just a sample of what he can do and a response to the poster who claimed Jin is an average trained guy. Although judging by this same video I can conveniently claim that Jin has more power behind his punches than Cap.
It didn't mess with the building other than making a crater where they stood, all it showed was that it blew off window panes from the building.
Hurting Rhino and Namor (Namor in the same scene tanked an optic blast from cyclops) is at least as good as that. It just doesn't have an aoe shockwave behind it. The durability of who you hurt matters just as much as the AOE of an attack, maybe even more.
Originally posted by Yamcha
Jin doesn't eat cornflakes, he wins.
Tron Bonne for the epic jail bait.
Devil Jin's random energy outburst wiped out an entire forest.
Then there are guys like Bryan Fury who can take a tank apart and literally walk through a charging military helicopter unscratched. Paul Phoenix who can hit so hard a shockwave from his and Bryan's collided punch rip through concrete. Feng Wei capable of oneshot destroying a hugeass boulder that was about to fall on him. And Kazuya who can shatter multiton bulletproof robots, Heihachi who can take a pointblank crazy powerful explosion that sent him flying miles through the air and headfirst into solid rock without sustaining any lasting injury etc.
Originally posted by CosmicCometI disagree but ok. Blood vengeance has a similar scene anyway with them and Heihachi and the shockwave destroyed a big part of the temple they were fighting in. AOE is an idication of power behind the attack. Every comic character has hurt every other character and yes I agree its consistent with Cap enough to be counted as a legit feat. At the same time I will not argue that say Deathstroke's punch has more umph behind it because he's hurt some established class 100 chars, not when the displayed power output is so clearly beyond his abilities. Its something you'd expect IF to pull of, not Cap.
It didn't mess with the building other than making a crater where they stood, all it showed was that it blew off window panes from the building.Hurting Rhino and Namor (Namor in the same scene tanked an optic blast from cyclops) is at least as good as that. It just doesn't have an aoe shockwave behind it. The durability of who you hurt matters just as much as the AOE of an attack, maybe even more.
Tron Bonne for the epic jail bait.
I'm not saying Cap doesn't have PIS behind him (hurting Hulk with a punch is definitely that), but he consistently hurts people that, while below hulk, are still very durable.
He has punched Iron Man hard enough for the latter to go crashing into the ground and also make a crater, so its not just a jobber aura thing behind his punches either. They just have a ton of pop behind them.
Originally posted by CosmicCometI agree with that. Tgat's why I mentioned consistency. Anyway, when I said spite I was talking about full power Jin which includes Devil. That means tk, lasers etc Regular Jin is different but I still believe that he takes it. He's not just some random Tekken character (who are all beastly), he's the best fighter in the entire series.
I'm not saying Cap doesn't have PIS behind him (hurting Hulk with a punch is definitely that), but he consistently hurts people that, while below hulk, are still very durable.He has punched Iron Man hard enough for the latter to go crashing into the ground and also make a crater, so its not just a jobber aura thing behind his punches either. They just have a ton of pop behind them.
Originally posted by SamZED
Truth is Jin is such a boring character he can't handle the spot light. Always needs some side character's POV (Lars, Xiao) otherwise people won't be able to stomach him. Kazuya on the other hand is awesome.
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IIRC Kazuya pretty much wiped the floor with the rest of the cast in the comics.