Captain America vs Jin Kazama

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Devil/angel/ogre ect.
High meta

Everyone else is low meta imho.

Cap kills them in speed, they have higher strike feats, but cap is far more skilled.

Cap has the feats to hang in the tekken verse.

Originally posted by SamZED
Its not just that they have better striking feats. Speed wise they're up there too. And im not talking about ninjas even. Even Heihachi has the speed/reflexes to catch a bullet with his teeth. That's a decent speed feat. They also got insane durability. Skill is debatable. Granted Cap has more established skill feats having fought everyone in MU. Jin and others are limited to a much smaller universe but concidering they've got guys who can shatter boulders thanks to their training... they're pretty effing skilled.

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How long can Jin remain in Devil mode?

Only long enough to get ko'd by Lord Rogers

^That only works for Danny.😛

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
How long can Jin remain in Devil mode?

Originally posted by Golgo13
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Originally posted by SamZED
^That only works for Danny.😛

For as long as he needs. At times he actually has to try really hard NOT to go into the devil mode.

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Who do you think wins? Paul Phoenix or Batman? HTH only. No gadgets.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Who do you think wins? Paul Phoenix or Batman? HTH only. No gadgets.

@Sam.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Jin only knows two styles of MA,

Kazama style MA he learned from his mother as a child.
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Mishima Karate he has yet to master.

Also Jin can't just turn devil at ease, that I know of. Either he has to be under serious duress or around other Devil Gene users.

Also I've never seen Devil Jin sustain the Devil form for any great period of time, or use multiple powers at the same time.

Jin is a low end pre lord rand upgrade Iron Fist.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
@Sam.

Jin can turn into devil at will (not that he has to tbh) he was shown using devils powers in human form even and combining various devil abilities when in devil mode. And can keep it up for as long as he needs.

Per upgrade IF was limited with his if attacks. Jin can throw as many chi amped punches as he needs. Also comparing him to Danny doesn't help Cap's case.😛

I'd definitely rank Devil Jin above the likes of IF or Cap. The man is just insane with power and durability.

pfftt ryu curbstomps em all

Originally posted by SamZED
Its not just that they have better striking feats. Speed wise they're up there too. And im not talking about ninjas even. Even Heihachi has the speed/reflexes to catch a bullet with his teeth. That's a decent speed feat. They also got insane durability. Skill is debatable. Granted Cap has more established skill feats having fought everyone in MU. Jin and others are limited to a much smaller universe but concidering they've got guys who can shatter boulders thanks to their training... they're pretty effing skilled.

I agree but Cap and Jin really have the potential to go the distance with each other and I will add that if Jin becomes Devil than Cap is from his Ultimate Universe who is Super Human so it evens the playing field GO

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Jin only knows two styles of MA,

Kazama style MA he learned from his mother as a child.
&
Mishima Karate he has yet to master.

Also Jin can't just turn devil at ease, that I know of. Either he has to be under serious duress or around other Devil Gene users.

Also I've never seen Devil Jin sustain the Devil form for any great period of time, or use multiple powers at the same time.

Jin is a low end pre lord rand upgrade Iron Fist.

He doesn't need to master mishima karate as he already beat both Kazuya and Heihachi in t4 who are both masters of mishima-style karate without turning into devil jin with just plain old karate.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
He doesn't need to master mishima karate as he already beat both Kazuya and Heihachi in t4 who are both masters of mishima-style karate without turning into devil jin with just plain old karate.

In fact Jin prefer NOT to use Mishima style karate because of how he feels about his family. He studied "traditional" karate very hard to compensate. When he turns devil however he has no such restrictions using the crazier mishima style to full extent.

Also canonically I believe Jin was the winner of tournaments 3-5 wich means he beat Ogre and Jinpachi.

Originally posted by SamZED
I feel that Paul should win but... The problem with characters like him - he barely has on-screen feats so its easy to make a case for Batman winning. Paul's feats come down to matching Bryan's striking power (which is insane) and stalemating Kazuya off-screen. Not much to work with.

Originally posted by SamZED
Its not just that they have better striking feats. Speed wise they're up there too. And im not talking about ninjas even. Even Heihachi has the speed/reflexes to catch a bullet with his teeth. That's a decent speed feat. They also got insane durability. Skill is debatable. Granted Cap has more established skill feats having fought everyone in MU. Jin and others are limited to a much smaller universe but concidering they've got guys who can shatter boulders thanks to their training... they're pretty effing skilled.

Where do you put this Chinian(pardon this since its not ment to be racist but just to be funny)😄 then in the scale of street level characters?

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc412/igniz6/Mandarin/H2H/AvengersANN1p25.jpg

As for this thread, I go with Jin.

Originally posted by Mshinu
In fact Jin prefer NOT to use Mishima style karate because of how he feels about his family. He studied "traditional" karate very hard to compensate. When he turns devil however he has no such restrictions using the crazier mishima style to full extent.

Also canonically I believe Jin was the winner of tournaments 3-5 wich means he beat Ogre and Jinpachi.

Although that maybe true, Hwoarang beat Jin in Tekken 5, after he was Defeated he Turned into Devil Jin and flew to Jinpachi to face him

And in Tekken 3 Paul beat Ancient Ogre and Left, but after that he Became True Ogre and at that Time Jin Arrived and finished the Job

there was No cleaner winner for Tekken 3 but in Tekken 4 there was also no clear winner thats why in Tekken 5 Jin is seen sitting in the Mishima Zaibatsu Throne after Defeating Jinpachi

He Didn't Win 3 or 4 he was just their Poster Boy throughout 3-5

Originally posted by Zack Fair
He killed a bear with his fists.

Paul i think Could Beat Jin i mean he's A rival to Kazuya and Beat Ancient Ogre or his Human Form with that said i believe Kazuya could also Beat Ancient Ogre as well and as for Paul, I believe he could win the Tournament if he wanted to but he's to busy Helping Law, i mean through out the Game Paul has done some impressive things like Stalemate Bryan, Kill Kuma1, Beat Ancient Ogre and Punches trough Boulders Redfeild Style but this is Getting Off topic

Ultimate Cap vs Jin
GO

Originally posted by RedX1852
I agree but Cap and Jin really have the potential to go the distance with each other and I will add that if Jin becomes Devil than Cap is from his Ultimate Universe who is Super Human so it evens the playing field GO

Originally posted by Zack Fair
He killed a bear with his fists.

Jin is easily up there with the Immortal Weapons from the Seven Capital Cities of Heaven.

Cap would get wrecked.