V&V Despero VS The X-Men

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I can't believe Despero's super-speed is being questioned here.

Me either. He's no Flash, but he's fast enough.

Prior to Despero performing Stooge-Jitsu to Captain Marvel and Superman, you had a whole squad flying at him full speed the page before.

^ I don't recall ever doubting that his opponents could fly at superspeeds to rush him.

Originally posted by ODG
^ I don't recall ever doubting that his opponents could fly at superspeeds to rush him.

His opponents, all being experienced heroes, would fly at Despero at superspeed and then give up the tactical advantage by then attacking at normal speed?

^ Speak English, please. Arguing that characters other than Despero have superspeed isn't proving that Despero himself has superspeed.

So, somebody who can hang with MM in flight speed and beat speedsters in combat lacks the combat feats to beat a bunch of mostly peak human mutants? Again, this argument started with the contention that Warren is fast enough to decapitate Despero (which obviously means Warren would be too fast for Despero to be able to react to...e.g block, dodge, TP, or a thousand other options)

Nope.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Speak English, please. Arguing that characters other than Despero have superspeed isn't proving that Despero himself has superspeed.

How. Did. Despero. Hit. Several. Speedsters.Who.Attacked. As. A. Group. In. Rapid. Succession.Without. Having. Super-speed?

^ If you don't know, read the comic.

Originally posted by ODG
^ If you don't know, read the comic.

Pathetic.

I accept your concession.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Pathetic.

I accept your concession.

Just because his opponents have superspeed doesn't make Despero superfast. Otherwise Hulk is a lightspeedster combatant.

This is just common sense.

But if this is the best argument for Despero having superspeed: Superman has superspeed.

Well then, case closed.

Originally posted by Cogito
So, somebody who can hang with MM in flight speed and beat speedsters in combat lacks the combat feats to beat a bunch of mostly peak human mutants? Again, this argument started with the contention that Warren is fast enough to decapitate Despero (which obviously means Warren would be too fast for Despero to be able to react to...e.g block, dodge, TP, or a thousand other options)

Nope.

Either way, Despero wins.

Originally posted by Cogito
So, somebody who can hang with MM in flight speed and beat speedsters in combat lacks the combat feats to beat a bunch of mostly peak human mutants? Again, this argument started with the contention that Warren is fast enough to decapitate Despero (which obviously means Warren would be too fast for Despero to be able to react to...e.g block, dodge, TP, or a thousand other options)

Nope.

Again, if you're trying to prove that everybody else but Despero has superspeed. Great. Mission accomplished. I don't recall ever disputing that other characters other than Despero have superspeed.

Originally posted by ODG
I'm not here to make your argument for you.

Just because his opponents have superspeed doesn't make Despero superfast. Otherwise Hulk is a lightspeedster combatant.

This is just common sense.

But if this is the best argument for Despero having superspeed: Superman has superspeed.

Well then, case closed.

Common sense would dictate that Despero must have super-speed to deal with simultaneous attacks from opponents attacking with super-speed.

Please show a comprable feat performed by the Hulk in a context exactly like the one in VIRTUE and VICE.

ODG, remember the group of speedsters must be flying at super-speed toward the Hulk before they attack.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Common sense would dictate that Despero must have super-speed to deal with simultaneous attacks from opponents attacking with super-speed.

Please show a comprable feat performed by the Hulk in a context exactly like the one in VIRTUE and VICE.

Please let me know when you are actually going to make an argument for Despero's superspeed. A feat would help.

Originally posted by ODG
Common sense dictates that focusing on every character other than Despero having superspeed, doesn't prove Despero himself has superspeed.

Please let me know when you are actually going to make an argument for Despero's superspeed. [B]A feat would help . [/B]

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This really is pathetic.

Daredevil beats Martian Manhunter by giving him some drug laced Oreos.

Someone argues that Daredevil can beat Emma Frost. An Emma supporter cites her psi powers and in response the Daredevil fan says " Daredevil beat Martian Manhunter so he can beat Emma".

While the statement is factually correct it doesn't address Daredevil's resistance to psionic attack.

All you CAN post are beings who POSSESS super-speed attacking The Hulk at normal speed and then pull a Daredevil.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
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Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
This really is pathetic.

Daredevil beats Martian Manhunter by giving him some drug laced Oreos.

Someone argues that Daredevil can beat Emma Frost. An Emma supporter cites her psi powers and in response the Daredevil fan says " Daredevil beat Martian Manhunter so he can beat Emma".

While the statement is factually correct it doesn't address Daredevil's resistance to psionic attack.

All you CAN post are beings who POSSESS super-speed attacking The Hulk at normal speed and then pull a Daredevil.

If you were trying to convince me that Despero has no combat superspeed feats though. I'm pretty well convinced.

Originally posted by ODG
I saw a flight speed feat and nothing else. And I've never disputed Despero can fly at great speeds. On this forum, we typically speak English. Not gibberish.

If you were trying to convince me that Despero has no combat superspeed feats though. I'm pretty well convinced.

You're ill equiped to pull of this pedantic act, sir.

You've failed.

Miserably.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Your ill equiped to pull of this pedantic act, sir.

You've failed.

Miserably.

That failure is nobody's.

Because, well, Despero is a fictional character and isn't responsible for not having a single combat superspeed feat to his name.