Originally posted by h1a8
you are the only one here trolling and not debating at all. I gave Saint props for good reasoning. Why can't you just debate for once.
You mean like the time I brought up the fact that Kingpin has tagged several people that have better bullet-time feats than Ozy and instead of admitting that he'd be able to tag Ozy, you just cried PIS?
Originally posted by Silent MasterTagging people who have bullet time feats in a comic doesn't mean anything if the ones getting tagged wasn't using bullet time speed and reflexes.
You mean like the time I brought up the fact that Kingpin has tagged several people that have better bullet-time feats than Ozy and instead of admitting that he'd be able to tag Ozy, you just cried PIS?
That's why this is a forum fight and not a comic one.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
For the record, Mangog can be pretty fast. He unleashed a hail of blows on Thor too swift for even the Rigellian Recorder to count:While we're on the topic of Rigellian's, none of their weapons despite their advanced technology even slowed Mangog down, including a beam that destroyed Stars:
Anyways, Silver Age Mangog f*cking crushes Doomsday.
Flat out lie btw.
It would be a scary thing if Mangog ever went back to his original power levels. No one on earth would be able to beat Mangog.
Originally posted by h1a8
Tagging people who have bullet time feats in a comic doesn't mean anything if the ones getting tagged wasn't using bullet time speed and reflexes.That's why this is a forum fight and not a comic one.
Where is your proof that the characters were massively holding back their speed?
Originally posted by the Darkone
It would be a scary thing if Mangog ever went back to his original power levels. No one on earth would be able to beat Mangog.
Not true. Speed would likely be his downfall if this were to happen. Also when did it state that he was downgraded? as far as i can tell he is just as powerful as he ever was. Unless of course it was stated otherwise. i mean he still touts the billion, billion beings saying, so...
Originally posted by Stoic
Not true. Speed would likely be his downfall if this were to happen. Also when did it state that he was downgraded? as far as i can tell he is just as powerful as he ever was. Unless of course it was stated otherwise. i mean he still touts the billion, billion beings saying, so...
What, speed wouldn't be SA Mangog down fall it would be PIS that would be his down fall. If Mangog every returns to his original level of power no one on earth beside MM,Legion and Franklin would be able to beat SA Mangog. SA Mangog a$$ raped all of Asgard and owned SA Odin; Earth would be a cake walk.
Originally posted by abhilegend
The commander stopped the attack after Batman made a truce with them. Only superman (well he's superman), wonder woman (thanks to bracers) and John stewart (healed himself with the ring) were able to pull it through, the rest were out for weeks.
Thanks for the scan. Nice feat.
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Originally posted by the Darkone
What, speed wouldn't be SA Mangog down fall it would be PIS that would be his down fall. If Mangog every returns to his original level of power no one on earth beside MM,Legion and Franklin would be able to beat SA Mangog. SA Mangog a$$ raped all of Asgard and owned SA Odin; Earth would be a cake walk.
So you don't think that a guy as fast as Makarri with an adamantium Katana wouldn't be able to put the hurt on Mangog? If not, I sure do. Mangog first of all would be turned into a statue, and would likely miss every opportunity to land a hit on this level of speed. A guy with that kind of speed could simply run hit and run assaults until Mangog is chopped down to a quivering mass of flesh. In my experience all characters have a weakness. Flash like speed tends to be the weakness of the huge unrelenting types of characters. Also was it ever stated that Mangog was nerfed? This is Marvel, not PC DC.
Originally posted by Stoic
So you don't think that a guy as fast as Makarri with an adamantium Katana wouldn't be able to put the hurt on Mangog? If not, I sure do. Mangog first of all would be turned into a statue, and would likely miss every opportunity to land a hit on this level of speed. A guy with that kind of speed could simply run hit and run assaults until Mangog is chopped down to a quivering mass of flesh. In my experience all characters have a weakness. Flash like speed tends to be the weakness of the huge unrelenting types of characters. Also was it ever stated that Mangog was nerfed? This is Marvel, not PC DC.
I don't think you are understanding what I am saying, Mangog was to ever regain his powers that he had in his first appearance he would literally phuck Marvel earth; Markari can have all the adamantium swords he wants there no guarantee he can even harm SA Mangog at all that is pure speculation on your part. SA Mangog was tanking hammer blows, tank on the Asgardian most powerful weapon the Asgardian Canonn, Mangog deflect Thor's hammer and by no means that the hammer is slow.
MAngog is not slow hell Modern Day Mangog tag Thor up and that was weaker version of Mangog. I'm making statement if Mangog reverts to his original powers he would own Marvel; outside of Franklin, Legion and MM who is going to beat SA Mangog, it took Odin to kill himself to even stop Mangog; even SA Odin doubted himself that he could beat SA Mangog and you think ome speedster can beat Sky Father level being in powers, yeah right!
Are we of the opinion that just because something can destroy stars off panel, that its most basic attack on panel must be capable of destroying stars too?
In that case, here's ****ing Faith taking a star destroying attack:
http://i43.tinypic.com/2ymeusg.jpg
Next time we see her:
http://i40.tinypic.com/23r1wjk.jpg
And the end of the battle, after pretty much everyone has taken these attacks (only Billy took a different attack in the tesseract bomb, which was obviously more powerful than the beams he took):
http://i39.tinypic.com/28mcvx3.jpg
The Void Hound could destroy stars, but not with any of the attacks we seen on panel. They could have whittled them down, they could have had one ultimate attack that isn't viable against moving opponents. But assuming their most basic attacks can destroy suns? lol
Anyway, here's actual named attacks against a planet:
http://i40.tinypic.com/ornkzk.jpg
The attack they took was closest to the holocaust beam if even. If they could just destroy stars with basic quick attacks, then they'd have no reason to use anything else ever. And they wouldn't have bombs that could turn Captain Marvel inside out, which forces the League to resort to throwing asteroids at the bombs, yet they feel completely comfortable continuing not to defend against the STAR DESTROYING BEAMS
It's not a bad feat of course. But why it's getting overblown, and why Superman is relevant here... I don't have the foggiest.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftIf the only explicit function of that something is to destroy star(core)s -- like the aptly-named Sun Shredder Beam -- than you can assume so.
Are we of the opinion that just because something can destroy stars off panel, that its most basic attack on panel must be capable of destroying stars too?
If it's just a random something whose sole purpose isn't seemingly limited to that expressed function, then no, you shouldn't assume so. Otherwise, you could idiotically argue that Thing has resisted star destroying attacks from Galactus... since he's destroyed stars off-panel.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftYou know exactly why. We all do.
It's not a bad feat of course. But why it's getting overblown, and why Superman is relevant here... I don't have the foggiest.
😂 @ this downplaying.
The captain of the ship was absolutely bloodlusted and insane with rage, but instead of using attacks that destroy planet and stars which was noted in the same page where superman was hit by it, he just uses simple attacks because apparently Faith took one hit. What a brantastic logic!!!
Save for superman and wonder woman who used her bracers everyone who took an attack was out of commission. Why is superman being used here? Because Doomsday is directly superior to him.
