Doomsday vs Mangog

Started by leonidas21 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Beating the Destroyer isn't a good showing because of a showing or two where it isn't absolutely stomping someone this side of Thanos?

Ben Grimm fought a weakened Destroyer (As confirmed by Loki) and Galactus withdrew his life energy halfway through and Ben was beating on an empty suit of armor. When did Thor knock out the Destroyer?

By that logic, Thor outperformed both the Destroyer (Powered by a regular human mind you) AND Hercules in combat apparently and stomped Perrikus easily. That was a stupid high showing for Thor who proceeded to Godblast a Skyfather plus being. Asgard was on the line. It was like Superman in OWAW. Not really indicative of anything. Fighting like that, he'd tear Doomsday a new anus too.

That's also such a HIGHLY selective example that I'm kind of disappointed...as anyone who has read Jurgen's 1998 Thor serious would know, the Destroyer treated Thor like Mangog treated War Thor until he was pushed to the breaking point.

Fandral tried to stab him and failed in his first appearance. He's been stabbed other than that through bladed weapons such as the Valkyrie's but it's never slowed him down.

the thor ko i'm talking about is this one:

https://imgur.com/a/MA5jl

did a momentary distraction enable thor a chance to strike? sure, but it was still a ko. or something like a ko. weird, and frankly disappointing since i'd thought the destroyer beyond that kind of dropping.

the grim example was mentioned only because a purely empty shell was brought up in the earlier discussion. seemed comparable to what was being discussed. /shrug

i'd totally disagree though that thor tears this level of dd a new one regardless of how he was fighting--like superman would never tear this level of dd a new one. and thor has fought prolonged battles against the destroyer on more than one occasion, so not sure what you're getting at there. sure the destroyer has outperformed him in general, but thor has also performed well against it too. didn't thor and thunderstrike one time force it to flee, just the 2 of them? can't recall the scene fully.... like anyone else though it has it's lesser showings. but that is off-topic and was never my main point. my main point was that handling the destroyer the way it did doesn't necessarily mean it handles dd the same way. at all.

this sort of got off topic but i still have no idea how anyone can claim a stomp on either side. this still seems like a very close battle imo.

Mangog

Originally posted by h1a8
Lifting feats aren't the ONLY way to prove strength. Damage by hitting and overpowering someone of strength also proves it.
DD is stronger than Superman because he overpowered him in a contest of direct strength. DD is stronger than Superman because he broke Superman's arm like a twig. DD is stronger than Superman because he impaled Superman as if Superman was made of liquid.
Also DD broke Superman's arm when Supes himself was experiencing a massive up in his own strength.

*UPGRADE*

Are we using Destroyer as a measuring stick?

https://m.imgur.com/AFEtRKx

Isn't Destroyer's power level dependent on the spirit/person animating it?

Supposedly. Not sure how much of a difference Maestro makes. Tarene is below.

https://imgur.com/a/dHZpmPl

Destroyer has decreased in power over the years. Skyfathers are easily able to beat it

Doomsday isn't a skyfather

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Isn't Destroyer's power level dependent on the spirit/person animating it?

For the most part.
Some human hosts are beastly on it though. Sometimes they look even more formidable than godly hosts. Meh, comics..

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
For the most part.
Some human hosts are beastly on it though. Sometimes they look even more formidable than godly hosts. Meh, comics..

True. Very inconsistent.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Doomsday isn't a skyfather
You're right. He's stronger. He blitzed and destroyed a guy who can kill some the strongest pantheon gods in the universe with a fraction of his power faster than he could react.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
For the most part.
Some human hosts are beastly on it though. Sometimes they look even more formidable than godly hosts. Meh, comics..

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Using the Destroyer is an iffy measuring stick then.

Meh, asgardian gods aren't really gods. They are glorified metas, at best.

One with the strong mind, will and spirit can operate Destroyer the best. That's what matters, imo.

Bump

This was never a fight.

Mangog stomps

Originally posted by carver9
Mangog stomps

How carver?

Mangog easily.

Originally posted by Thinkerer
Mangog easily.

How?