Doomsday vs Mangog

Started by Stoic21 pages
Originally posted by leonidas
you've always seen mangog and dd on different levels? you figured mangog was more powerful?

Yes. You? I mean I made a topic a while go with DD vs Validus, and people were saying that Val would crush him. I've always thought that Mangog would defeat Val so there's that.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Mangog has been referenced in a fight to be speedy, by observation.

DoS Doomsday was referenced in a fight to be speedy, by observation.

Therefore, logically, Mangog/Doomsday are speedy.

That is the similarity.

Are there differences? Of course. But to assert there is NO similarity, is incorrect.

I never made any comparison between Mangog and Flash.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yes. You? I mean I made a topic a while go with DD vs Validus, and people were saying that Val would crush him. I've always thought that Mangog would defeat Val so there's that.

i guess i never really thought about it that much. mangog has been portrayed a little inconsistently since he first appeared, but if we go by his best, i'd say him and hp dd were pretty close. it would take a little research or a bunch of scans of both for me to compare before i formed a more solid opinion. a little surprised people suggested pc val would kill hp dd though.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
I never made any comparison between Mangog and Flash.

Never said you did.

I feel like I already asked this but what did Doomsday do that puts him on Mangog level? I feel certain Doomsday wouldn't have Odin pissing his pants at the thought of fighting him. He would probably just send Thor to do his dirty work.

Also, what has Mangog done?

He ate the Destroyer when it was powered by a sick Freyja.

Ate Ultimate Mjolnir when it was powered by a dead universe

Anything else?

Originally posted by carver9
I feel like I already asked this but what did Doomsday do that puts him on Mangog level? I feel certain Doomsday wouldn't have Odin pissing his pants at the thought of fighting him. He would probably just send Thor to do his dirty work.

Current Odin is a joke when compared to his glory days

Despite being pissed, dude couldn’t defeat jane Thor

Let’s not pretend that his current power is anywhere close to his glory days

Lets hope I’m wrong and by issue 705, Odin does something good

Originally posted by carver9
I feel like I already asked this but what did Doomsday do that puts him on Mangog level? I feel certain Doomsday wouldn't have Odin pissing his pants at the thought of fighting him. He would probably just send Thor to do his dirty work.

Thread says
Peak DD vs Current Mangog

and

Peak DD vs SA Mangog

Peak DD is pretty much his HP incarnations. Current Mangog though beastly I think falls short of peak DD.

Then again u could be saying Current Mango is pretty much SA Mango... Then go ahead make ure argument.
*shrug*

Current is meant to be stronger than SA , though,right?

Supposedly. I take statements into consideration, but it's not the be all end all. I like to see feats that back it up. Comics luv to make all kinds of statements to add gravity to the story.
"He's stronger than ever"
"She's faster than me"
"he's more powerful than ever"
"I'm as strong as him"
Blah blah blah

Same with DD. Supposedly he's stronger everytime he gets resurrected. At least I think that's how it goes. But is that always the case?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Supposedly. I take statements into consideration, but it's not the be all end all. I like to see feats that back it up.

Same with DD. Supposedly he's stronger everytime he gets resurrected. At least I think that's how it goes. But is that always the case?

I think so.

Can't think of him dying to a weaker attack than what he'd previously faced.

Of course, am only counting the 'pure' strains of DD.

@JL King...

So you're using his fight against Jane as a pedistal of what Odin is capable of? Is this what you are saying? Gladiator defeated Jane. Does this means Gladiator>>>Odin. Just trying to see where this all stand with you.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think so.

Can't think of him dying to a weaker attack than what he'd previously faced.

Of course, am only counting the 'pure' strains of DD.


Dunno.

To me he seemed more unstoppable in his ancient form than in DoS. And he had some crazy amping ability from the green energy.

Also his later form(w/supes dna) didn't seem like he was more powerful on latter appearances with said form.

Then in rebirth he seemed pretty powerful, but Supes was able to hang. U'd think he would have evolved to be even more powerful by then. Comics can be so inconsistent.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, what has Mangog done?

He ate the Destroyer when it was powered by a sick Freyja.

Ate Ultimate Mjolnir when it was powered by a dead universe

Anything else?

The same Destroyer that wasn't powered by anything stomped a high Herald and low Herald with ease. Also, I think the shell of the Destroyer stomped Jane. I know Odin resurrected it but I don't think his essense was powering it.

Powered by a dead Universe? I don't get it. War was obviously in the Herald tier with it. Thor was amazed at this Mjlonir power. Where are you going with this?

Mangog stomps.

Regular Destroyer on its own one shotted Gladiator

Yep. Doomsday is powerful but not that powerful. Especially looking at the way Gladiator was displayed in the comic.

Originally posted by carver9
The same Destroyer that wasn't powered by anything stomped a high Herald and low Herald with ease. Also, I think the shell of the Destroyer stomped Jane. I know Odin resurrected it but I don't think his essense was powering it.

Powered by a dead Universe? I don't get it. War was obviously in the Herald tier with it. Thor was amazed at this Mjlonir power. Where are you going with this?

Mangog stomps.


Pretty sure it was powered by an Asgardian soul. It was revealed in the most recent Thor.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Pretty sure it was powered by an Asgardian soul. It was revealed in the most recent Thor.

Which time? Also, even without it being powered by anything, it was recently said that the Destroyer is more powerful than ever.

Still, Mangog Chewed through a Trans Tier being

Originally posted by carver9
Which time? Also, even without it being powered by anything, it was recently said that the Destroyer is more powerful than ever.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xQAxhrrAsyo/Wl9C_3DFIdI/AAAAAAAAqWE/wgspyseFO-QCQnBgdSKafka81BwxyZqRACLcBGAs/s1600/015_013.jpg

Also the statement about fire in the destroyer did not really say it was more powerful. It was that it seemed to hurt the person or persons who were inhabiting it more than it usually did. Notice the pile of comatose bodies.