Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan rapes his ass. Better fighter, smarter, and his cell regeneration makes Riddick his *****.
And when Khan gets stabbed in the cranium like the NecroLord (who is demonstrably faster than Khan), how will regen help him then?
Khan's awesome and all, but I haven't seen him display quite the same H2H discipline as Riddick, nor the adaptability. He seems to require some level of planning unlike his opponent.
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Didn't Khan get beat down by ****ing Spock?
To be fair, Uhura did help him a little at last minute, but they were pretty much wrecking each other in equal measure for most of the fight. Although, Uhura's intervention was a minor inconvenience at best, so you're technically right.
Originally posted by Sacred 117Khan wrecked Spock quite handily. Riddick was wrecked by The Lord Marshal.
And when Khan gets stabbed in the cranium like the NecroLord (who is demonstrably faster than Khan), how will regen help him then?Khan's awesome and all, but I haven't seen him display quite the same H2H discipline as Riddick, nor the adaptability. He seems to require some level of planning unlike his opponent.
Khan is too highly trained, strong, and skilled. Khan was not even injured by an all out Kirk. Kirk would hurt Riddick badly if Riddick let him punch him.
Originally posted by Sacred 117Khan was about to break his skull. Acting like 8 stun blasts which also allowed Spock the time to recover and hit Khan with a weapon means on his own he cannot stand against Khan.
To be fair, Uhura did help him a little at last minute, but they were pretty much wrecking each other in equal measure for most of the fight. Although, Uhura's intervention was a minor inconvenience at best, so you're technically right.
Riddick isn't as physically enhanced as Khan but his mind is more sharpened, he is better at killing than Khan. That can't be questioned, look at the shit he does. Riddick might bleed when hit but I don't see Khan disarming and decapitating a man by kicking his own machete across the room whilst being stuck in one spot unable to use his arms because he's chained. I don't see it happening, Riddick is a lot like Ozymandias in that he's super-humanly acute. Khan isn't like that, he is enhanced like Captain America as oppossed to Ozymandias, if we're going for comic book counter parts. I'd Riddick wins given the fact that the only ranged weaponry allowed here are guns, no phazers, lazers, or plasma-based weaponry of any kind. That means those giant guns Khan used to take out the Klingons can't be used here. So he has to go up against this:
Without advanced weaponry.
Khan has better: strength, speed, stamina, durability, resilience, endurance, tactical expertise, scientific knowledge (designing better star ships has nothing to do with this fight)
Riddick has better: dexterity, balance, agility, reflexes, flexibility, pain tolerance, control of bodily functions, reaction times, coordination, survival/killer instincts, senses (sense of smell, hearing, seeing in pitch black darkness), sensory processing (he thinks faster), combat skill, melee expertise
In guerrilla warfare, which isn't necessarily direct confrontation, of course Riddick's skill-set is better for this kind of fight than Khan's.
NO!
He doesn't dislocate his limbs to get out of traps, he doesn't kill with tea cups, if he were blindfolded he wouldn't be able to calculate the exact distance he's traveled.
If Khan only had a sword carved from bone and fashioned from armor, he wouldn't last long against dozens of these things where as Riddick became increasingly efficient at killing them in melee.
Originally posted by DolosKhan doesn't need to. Khan always understands the situation he is in and will put himself in an advantageous position. Khan wrecks people with his hands. He also can jump far faster and is far superior than Riddick. Watch Kirk punch Khan over and over and his arm weakened. He would have beaten Riddick up and down with those free hits.
KHAN ISN'T OMNIPOTENT!He doesn't dislocate his limbs to get out of traps, he doesn't kill with tea cups, if he were blindfolded he wouldn't be able to calculate the exact distance he's traveled. Riddick does things Khan can't do.
Originally posted by ares834
What do you mean by "guerrilla h2h combat"? Do you mean they are using stealth and such?If so Riddick wins.
He didn't supply a location therefore the fight takes place in the forum arena.
Where there is no stealth.
It's a mistake on the OP therefore Khan fights Riddick in an open field.
And Khan wins it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan wrecked Spock quite handily. Riddick was wrecked by The Lord Marshal.Khan is too highly trained, strong, and skilled. Khan was not even injured by an all out Kirk. Kirk would hurt Riddick badly if Riddick let him punch him.
Think back to who actually succeeded in their respective confrontations though.
Better trained and skilled than Riddick? Remind me how. Also, what stands as evidence of Kirk > Riddick?!
Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you kidding me ?
I don't see the problem. It's a reasonable, sound conclusion.
Originally posted by Dolos
Riddick isn't as physically enhanced as Khan but his mind is more sharpened, he is better at killing than Khan. That can't be questioned, look at the shit he does. Riddick might bleed when hit but I don't see Khan disarming and decapitating a man by kicking his own machete across the room whilst being stuck in one spot unable to use his arms because he's chained. I don't see it happening, Riddick is a lot like Ozymandias in that he's super-humanly acute. Khan isn't like that, he is enhanced like Captain America as oppossed to Ozymandias, if we're going for comic book counter parts. I'd Riddick wins given the fact that the only ranged weaponry allowed here are guns, no phazers, lazers, or plasma-based weaponry of any kind. That means those giant guns Khan used to take out the Klingons can't be used here. So he has to go up against this:Without advanced weaponry.
Khan has better: strength, speed, stamina, durability, resilience, endurance, tactical expertise, scientific knowledge (designing better star ships has nothing to do with this fight)
Riddick has better: dexterity, balance, agility, reflexes, flexibility, pain tolerance, control of bodily functions, reaction times, coordination, survival/killer instincts, senses (sense of smell, hearing, seeing in pitch black darkness), sensory processing (he thinks faster), combat skill, melee expertise
In guerrilla warfare, which isn't necessarily direct confrontation, of course Riddick's skill-set is better for this kind of fight than Khan's.
Provide equally sound evidence to dispute it.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Much more impressive durability, combined with a healing factor
Better strength feats
Better fighting skills (true Spock put up a good fight, but A) Spock was in full rage mode, and B) Spock lost and was about to get his head crushed when Uhura saved him)
Faster speed
There. That's better, except the claim about skills.
Riddick did this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAcLXQ1pv50&t=1m52s) as well as dicing nearly an entire regimen of Half-Deads, whereas Khan was brought down by a lesser trained team of two.
