Khan (Star Trek) Vs. Riddick

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Think back to who actually succeeded in their respective confrontations though.

Better trained and skilled than Riddick? Remind me how. Also, what stands as evidence of Kirk > Riddick?!

I don't see the problem. It's a reasonable, sound conclusion.

Provide equally sound evidence to dispute it.

Kirk would not beat Riddick but he'd hurt him if he was allowed the free shots he had against Khan. Try understanding what I wrote.

Riddick shrugged off a glancing hit from a gravity gun that sent him spiraling like 20+ feet away and into a rock, while the guy it hit head on bored a hole into his chest. Riddick would be just fine taking everything Kirk could dish out.

Originally posted by KingD19
Riddick shrugged off a glancing hit from a gravity gun that sent him spiraling like 20+ feet away and into a rock, while the guy it hit head on bored a hole into his chest. Riddick would be just fine taking everything Kirk could dish out.

He wasn't ko'd. He got right back up.

Originally posted by KingD19
He wasn't ko'd. He got right back up.

Looking back. You're right. The gravity gun ko'd him after a bit. However, he was just fine once he woke up. And going by what we've seen of Khan and Riddick's toughness, Khan would be in similar shape.

And judging by Riddick's fight scenes, he's got Khan beat in strength as well imo. As shown by him hurling Kira dozens of feet with one arm from a position with absolutely no leverage, or leaping clear across the room to sneak attack Lord Marshall, or catching a full grown man with a fully extended arm and stopping him cold.

Originally posted by KingD19
Looking back. You're right. The gravity gun ko'd him after a bit. However, he was just fine once he woke up. And going by what we've seen of Khan and Riddick's toughness, Khan would be in similar shape.

And judging by Riddick's fight scenes, he's got Khan beat in strength as well imo. As shown by him hurling Kira dozens of feet with one arm from a position with absolutely no leverage, or leaping clear across the room to sneak attack Lord Marshall, or catching a full grown man with a fully extended arm and stopping him cold.

Kirk would hurt him. Kirk can't hurt Khan. Khan has better feats in one movie than Riddick.

Khan tossed people around many feet back too and it is a woman for crying out loud.

Face it. Khan will beat him down. Better showings, superior damage soak, cell regeneration, intelligence, etc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Saying Khan would be ko'd after he tanked 8 blasts is unsupported nonsense.

Kirk would hurt him. Kirk can't hurt Khan. Khan has better feats in one movie than Riddick.

Khan tossed people around many feet back too and it is a woman for crying out loud.

Face it. Khan will beat him down. Better showings, superior damage soak, cell regeneration, intelligence, etc.

Tanking Stun Rounds from a Phaser is not the same as getting hit with a gravity gun that sends people dozens of feet and punches holes into their bodies. It's nonsense to compare two different kinds of damage. Like comparing a guy getting shot to someone getting cracked in the skull with a baseball bat.

Khan never sent anyone as far as Riddick did with Kira, and her being a woman doesn't matter. He still flung her 10+ feet from a crouched position by slinging her over his back from behind him with one arm. That's an insane feat. He also sent fully grown, armored men flying as well.

And no, Kirk would not hurt Riddick based on feats. The damage he's tanked is so far beyond what Kirk can deliver, he'd probably laugh at him.

Originally posted by KingD19
Tanking Stun Rounds from a Phaser is not the same as getting hit with a gravity gun that sends people dozens of feet and punches holes into their bodies. It's nonsense to compare two different kinds of damage. Like comparing a guy getting shot to someone getting cracked in the skull with a baseball bat.

Khan never sent anyone as far as Riddick did with Kira, and her being a woman doesn't matter. He still flung her 10+ feet from a crouched position by slinging her over his back from behind him with one arm. That's an insane feat. He also sent fully grown, armored men flying as well.

And no, Kirk would not hurt Riddick based on feats. The damage he's tanked is so far beyond what Kirk can deliver, he'd probably laugh at him.

He knocked ran guy further then 10 plus feet aboard the Dreadnaught. Man weighs more than woman. Advantage: Khan.

Nah, name a highly skilled fighter who tires punching Riddick in the face. Keep dreaming.

Riddick is some idiotic guy on the run whereas Khan takes on the Klingons and the Starfleet himself. Badass.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Riddick is some idiotic guy on the run whereas Khan takes on the Klingons and the Starfleet himself. Badass.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
There. That's better, except the claim about skills.

Riddick did this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAcLXQ1pv50&t=1m52s) as well as dicing nearly an entire regimen of Half-Deads, whereas Khan was brought down by a lesser trained team of two.

I haven't seen the latest Riddick movie yet, but based on his first two, I'm giving this to Khan. The guy leaps from crashing starships.

Good fight, though. Khan will get hurt.

He didn't leap from any crashing starships.

He did leap from one that was at rest, though.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He didn't leap from any crashing starships.

He did leap from one that was at rest, though.

Originally posted by Dolos
Necromongers at least rival if not downright surpass the Klingons as warriors, and Riddick took them down by the score without any ranged weapons. And they had ranged weapons.

Not only that, but I wish they'd quit with the healing factor. There is no healing factor, no regen, Khan doesn't heal during combat like ****ing Wolverine.

Khan's cells regenerate like crazy. Kirk unloading on him and being unable to hurt him blows Riddick out of the water.

Riddick tanking 4 sniper grade horse tranqs and still going is a pretty big durability/metabolism/healing feat.

And he's got enough strength feats in Chronicles, Pitch Black, and Riddick to put his strength comfortable above Khans.

That Tranq feat is beyond anything Riddick ever showed before......

It's almost bullshit quite frankly.

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Originally posted by KingD19
Riddick tanking 4 sniper grade horse tranqs and still going is a pretty big durability/metabolism/healing feat.

And he's got enough strength feats in Chronicles, Pitch Black, and Riddick to put his strength comfortable above Khans.

Not even close.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The correct answer to this thread is Khan.

Originally posted by Badabing
The real Khan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I cringe every time I see that weak Khan. If it wasn't for J.J. Abrams would anyone care about Star Trek ?