I find it funny that Quan thinks taking 8 stun bolts designed to stun people is as impressive as taking 4 high powered horse tranquilizers. One of which is enough to down a full grown horse in a few seconds.
Or I find it sad that he's so dedicated he's one again thrown a big middle finger to logic just so he can back the guy in his sig.
Originally posted by KingD19Kirk could not even harm him with his attacks. Not the same with Riddick. Not at all. Khan is superhuman. It is obvious. Riddick while extremely skilled is not Khan nor is he portrayed as on the same level..
I find it funny that Quan thinks taking 8 stun bolts designed to stun people is as impressive as taking 4 high powered horse tranquilizers. One of which is enough to down a full grown horse in a few seconds.Or I find it sad that he's so dedicated he's one again thrown a big middle finger to logic just so he can back the guy in his sig.
A much stronger human than Kirk in Diaz couldn't hurt Riddick.(evidenced by him lifting Riddick above his head by his arms) He also couldn't overpower Riddick, despite having him in a position where Riddick shouldn't have been able to move.
Also, Riddick is clearly superhuman if you've watched any of the films. In the newest one, from a seated position, while chained up, leaning back, with only one leg and no room for extension, Riddick booted Santana clear across a room and into a wall. While also kicking a machete through a steel ceiling, then he kicked that same machete across the room like a buzzsaw with so much force it split Santana's head in half and embedded itself in the reinforced metal wall.
That's just one strength feat. He also has agility and speed like dodging a gravity gun blast from only a few feet away, then dodging another one while jumping away from Krone and not even looking back.
You're right though. Riddick isn't on the same level. For the most part he's portrayed on a higher level than Khan.
Originally posted by KingD19Overpowering someone and letting them have free shots is completely different. One is comparing strength and one is showcasing an elite human male being unable to even harm Khan with all out punches.
A much stronger human than Kirk in Diaz couldn't hurt Riddick.(evidenced by him lifting Riddick above his head by his arms) He also couldn't overpower Riddick, despite having him in a position where Riddick shouldn't have been able to move.Also, Riddick is clearly superhuman if you've watched any of the films. In the newest one, from a seated position, while chained up, leaning back, with only one leg and no room for extension, Riddick booted Santana clear across a room and into a wall. While also kicking a machete through a steel ceiling, then he kicked that same machete across the room like a buzzsaw with so much force it split Santana's head in half and embedded itself in the reinforced metal wall.
That's just one strength feat. He also has agility and speed like dodging a gravity gun blast from only a few feet away, then dodging another one while jumping away from Krone and not even looking back.
You're right though. Riddick isn't on the same level. For the most part he's portrayed on a higher level than Khan.
Riddick can't jump as far as Khan. Isn't as skilled as Khan. Isn't as strong as Khan. Khan is on another level whereas Riddick clearly is not. We have seen feebs beat him before.
Riddick jumped pretty damn far in Chronicles. Leaping from Necro statue dozens of feet to try and catch Lord Marshall Zhylaw off guard. How far did Khan jump?
He's actually more skilled than Khan.
He's actually stronger than Khan.
Yeah, whatever level Khan is on, Riddicks past it.
Also for the record, Kirk can be Alpha as F***, but his strength isn't that great. He wasn't one punching the guys in the bar in the beginning of the first movie. He was barely able to last against Spock and the Romulans who are only 3x humans. Khan is supposed to be 5x, so it's not surprising he wasn't hurt.
Originally posted by KingD1930 meters iirc.
Riddick jumped pretty damn far in Chronicles. Leaping from Necro statue dozens of feet to try and catch Lord Marshall Zhylaw off guard. How far did Khan jump?He's actually more skilled than Khan.
He's actually stronger than Khan.
Yeah, whatever level Khan is on, Riddicks past it.
No, he is not. We see Khan crush a skull. What has Riddick done which is greater ?
We clearly do not see him on another level in his own films. Khan's strength feats, skill showings, and overall portrayal are on another level altogether.
What has Riddick done? Outright stopped a charging bioraptor who is easily strong enough to pluck a fully grown person off the ground and fly off with them and rip them to shreds.
He stopped a full grown man going full speed jumping at him, with his arm fully extended. He stopped him cold.
He shoved a cup into a man's sternum so deep it didn't move when he fell.
He kicked Santana much further than anyone Khan actually got off the ground from a position where he couldn't use anything but pure strength.
He kicked a machete across a room(making it spin like a buzzsaw), and it had enough energy behind it to cleave clean through a man's skull and embed itself in a wall.
While being hoisted off the ground by his arms with his arms behind his back, he overpowered Diaz.
He was literally punching out Mud Demons like Mongo punched out that horse in Blazing Saddles.
Tossed Kira a few dozen feet with ease while crouched and literally reaching his hand behind him and flinging her over his head.
Oh, and he survived having a portion of a mountainside fall on his head with nothing more than a fractured leg.
Originally posted by KingD19I never said he did not have impressive feats but he still doesn't add up to Khan's feats and portrayal.
What has Riddick done? Outright stopped a charging bioraptor who is easily strong enough to pluck a fully grown person off the ground and fly off with them and rip them to shreds.He stopped a full grown man going full speed jumping at him, with his arm fully extended. He stopped him cold.
He shoved a cup into a man's sternum so deep it didn't move when he fell.
He kicked Santana much further than anyone Khan actually got off the ground from a position where he couldn't use anything but pure strength.
He kicked a machete across a room(making it spin like a buzzsaw), and it had enough energy behind it to cleave clean through a man's skull and embed itself in a wall.
While being hoisted off the ground by his arms with his arms behind his back, he overpowered Diaz.
He was literally punching out Mud Demons like Mongo punched out that horse in Blazing Saddles.
Tossed Kira a few dozen feet with ease while crouched and literally reaching his hand behind him and flinging her over his head.
Oh, and he survived having a portion of a mountainside fall on his head with nothing more than a fractured leg.
Khan still has jumped further, been unable to be hurt by an all out elite human male just tanking his best shots, cell regeneration clearly stating only he could survive the Dreadnought crash, driving foes back 10 plus feet backward with hand to hand combat, etc.
Originally posted by KingD19
A much stronger human than Kirk in Diaz couldn't hurt Riddick.(
Diaz did hurt Riddick. He couldn't take Riddick down and he couldn't beat Riddick, but Riddick didn't exactly just smile while Diaz was hitting him. Khan allowed Kirk to keep hitting him till Kirk got tired. Riddick hasn't allowed himself to get punched around like that as far as I recall.
Originally posted by RobtardThe line was no one could have survived that crash meaning the one in that movie not pertaining to the history of cinema. Spock's response was clear. This is just another example of the clear point in how superhuman he was in the movie.
Normal humans have survived crashing into a planet on board a starship you silly bandwagon boi. The movie made it crystal clear that Khan is superhuman even for the people that didn't already know the back-story to the character; it doesn't need your nonsense. Cry now?
Originally posted by RobtardWhen did I say this feat was his most impressive ? Quit putting words in my mouth. The people aboard the ship are qualified to make that call. They are experts in their field to be aboard the ship in the first place. Again, we aren't comparing any other ship crashes but just this one. Khan survived. His has far greater feats but the portrayal was clearly superhuman from start to finish.
The hell is wrong with you. Human children have survived the crashing of a starship into a planet, bandwagonner. What Sulu said was just a guess made in the heat of the moment. His other feats are more impressive, but you go on and stick to the mundane, mediocrity-man.
When did I say you said that? I didn't, so stop lying. Sulu is a helmsman, how does that make him an "expert" in starship crash survival statistics? It was a line said in haste in the heat of the moment, as I said, children have survived crashing in starships.
"Khan survived a crashing ship and he's the best in that crash comparing it to that crash". You sound like a confused child, obviously comparisons are made in here with similar situations to get a better portrayal of the feat, as we can't compare it to itself. You trying to push "we can't make comparisons in here because it ruins my wanking" is just you crying again.
So cry some more, or just move on and focus on Khans actual uber feats?
Originally posted by RobtardAgain, this comment was made in direct reference to the circumstances involved in this crash. His opinion is not meant to be taken as an ignorant one. You can pretend he is some fool but we both know better.
Sulu is a helmsman, how does that make him an "expert" in starship crash survival statistics? It was a line said in haste in the heat of the moment, as I said, children have survived crashing in starships."Khan survived a crashing ship and he's the best in that crash". You sound like a child, obviously comparisons are made in here with similar situations to get a better portrayal of the feat, you trying to push "we can't make comparisons here because it ruins my wanking" is just you crying again.
So cry some more, or just move on and focus on Khans actual uber feats?
I have named numerous Khan feats. You coming in and pretending this is the only thing I referenced is both dishonest and childish tbh. Grow up.