Originally posted by Odekahn
I skimmed. 2 panels with 2 attacks where surfer is unhindered. Surfer stops the moment he gets attacked. Again, Superman isn't going to just be standing there. Also, the disruptions were both against technologically altered beings. There's nothing that suggests this would work on Superman, especially with him showing resistance to similar types of attacks in the past.
So you are implying that Superman will attack while Surfer would stand there helpless.? Lord.
Originally posted by Odekahn
I skimmed. 2 panels with 2 attacks where surfer is unhindered. Surfer stops the moment he gets attacked. Again, Superman isn't going to just be standing there. Also, the disruptions were both against technologically altered beings. There's nothing that suggests this would work on Superman, especially with him showing resistance to similar types of attacks in the past.
Doesn't matter if Surfer stops. The energy disruption continues after Surfer stopped blasting, and both Vision and Wonder Man were in trouble if Pym and Tony didn't save them.
No, only Vision was tech based. Wonder Man uses Ionic energy, which according to Pym is different, and bioelectric in nature. Hence why the scan showed Pym and Tony using different methods to save Vision and Wonder Man. Did you read the scan?
So according to you, Surfer disrupting the energy stores of two beings, that use different energies (electric and ionic), means he can't do the same to Superman's solar energy stores? Resistance doesn't mean immunity, and someone on Surfer's caliber will effect Superman.
Originally posted by vince_slice
Doesn't matter if Surfer stops. The energy disruption continues after Surfer stopped blasting, and both Vision and Wonder Man were in trouble if Pym and Tony didn't save them.No, only Vision was tech based. Wonder Man uses Ionic energy, which according to Pym is different, and [b]bioelectric
in nature. Hence why the scan showed Pym and Tony using different methods to save Vision and Wonder Man. Did you read the scan?So according to you, Surfer disrupting the energy stores of two beings, that use different energies (electric and ionic), means he can't do the same to Superman's solar energy stores? Resistance doesn't mean immunity, and someone on Surfer's caliber will effect Superman. [/B]
How did Wonderman gets his powers again? Technology. It's not his natural makeup. It's something foreign inside him, just like Hulk and his gamma radiation. Also, what's the panel before that one look like?
Surfer blasts, Superman dodges, lol. It's nothing he hasn't done countless times.
Originally posted by Odekahn
How did Wonderman gets his powers again? Technology. It's not his natural makeup. It's something foreign inside him, just like Hulk and his gamma radiation. Also, what's the panel before that one look like?Surfer blasts, Superman dodges, lol. It's nothing he hasn't done countless times.
Which panel are you talking about?
You know what else Superman has done countless times? Tanking attacks. He loves to tank stuff and gets hit by attacks countless times. Every durability feat he has is him being hit by something and not dodging. I find it hard to believe that Surfer won't land a single blast on him.
Originally posted by vince_slice
Vision is tech based because he's literally a robot. Wonder Man and Hulk on the other hand had their powers become part of their natural makeup through tech or science. Yet Surfer has manipulated both their internal energies. There are other example, like Surfer instantly draining Firelord's cosmic energy, and Surfer sealing away Skaar's immense Old Power (which is his birthright). I find it extremely hard to believe that Superman would be immune to Surfer mucking with his solar energy stores.Which panel are you talking about?
You know what else Superman has done countless times? Tanking attacks. He loves to tank stuff and gets hit by attacks countless times. Every durability feat he has is him being hit by something and not dodging. I find it hard to believe that Surfer won't land a single blast on him.
Like I said, they were given their powers technologically.
The panel on the page before the first one you linked. Was that Surfer's first appearance in that comic? Likely not.
Sure, but why would he unless he has to or unless the writer is exhibiting Supes invulnerability? Also, "Every durability feat he has is him being hit by something and not dodging" .... No kidding. Lol
Originally posted by carver9
This is DCNU Superman. What did he do against Flash, GL, Darkseid to make you think he is to fast for Surfer? Provide scans to prove this point. Remember, provide COMBAT showings.
Dude it's the first six issues of JusticeLeague... And I'm driving so I can't post any scans right now.
Originally posted by Odekahn
1 panelled Green Lantern, was the first being to be fast enough to touch the flash, dodged and out-ran an omega beam.
Lol...so that speed ft is enough to be to fast for Surfer? The one where he is moving in a blur against GL? Hahahahahahaha. Surfer searched an entire planet in a second. Lol at you thinking him blitzing at blur speed is something. I guessHulk is too fast for Surfer as well huh? Since he has blur movement speeds.
Hahahahaha... Flash was blitzing him that entire panel...Superman couldn't land a lick until flash stopped moving. Lets also not pretend like Flash hasn't been hit since then. Hell, comics after that he was tagged by a bullet.
Lol again, he didn't outrun the Omegas (how fast are the Omegas?)...Flash carried him away from the Omegas and LOL at you using that as evidence that Superman is faster than Surfer. Surfer was fighting Bill at many times the speed of light and kept up with his ship while moving at FTL speeds (and fighting Bill at the same time). This doesn't include Surfer passing Galaxies in seconds or blitzing Nova (who has FTL speed showings) so fast that Nova thought he was hit by a energy blast. Your speed fts are, how can say it, lame and contradictory.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...so that speed ft is enough to be to fast for Surfer? The one where he is moving in a blur against GL? Hahahahahahaha.
Its a speed feat, show me better.
Surfer searched an entire planet in a second.
That's not a combat feat.
Lol at you thinking him blitzing at blur speed is something. I guessHulk is too fast for Surfer as well huh? Since he has blur movement speeds.
Show me Hulk moving in the way Superman does in that panel.
Are you denying that panel is a show of super speed? Are you claiming then that the Hulk has super speed in the same manner as Superman? Hopefully, your answer to both of those questions is no.
Hahahahaha... Flash was blitzing him that entire panel...Superman couldn't land a lick until flash stopped moving.
Wrong, he was blitzing and running circles around Superman, but Clark had a quick enough mind and eye to time it right. Flash even knew it was coming right before it hit him. Superman was fast enough to surprise Barry and send him flying back literally with the flick of a finger.
Lets also not pretend like Flash hasn't been hit since then. Hell, comics after that he was tagged by a bullet.Lol again, he didn't outrun the Omegas (how fast are the Omegas?)...Flash carried him away from the Omegas and LOL at you using that as evidence that Superman is faster than Surfer. Surfer was fighting Bill at many times the speed of light and kept up with his ship while moving at FTL speeds (and fighting Bill at the same time). This doesn't include Surfer passing Galaxies in seconds or blitzing Nova (who has FTL speed showings) so fast that Nova thought he was hit by a energy blast. Your speed fts are, how can say it, lame and contradictory.
Show me the examples you are talking about, please.
I'm not a surfer expert and I never claimed to be. You don't have to be condescending :/