Satele Shan vs Galen Marek

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Satele Shan vs Galen Marek

Sabers
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All Out

lol, 3 threads in the span of like an hour? pace yourself

anyways, galen in all most likely.

Marek in all.

Shan.

Lol really?

For some reason I have the idea stuck in my head that Shan is supposed to be a beast, like Yoda tier. Not sure why-

Marek wins per evident feats though.

lol, shan yoda tier? nah.

Feats wise, Marek seems to be superior to many in the mythos but his actual competence can be determined from his performance against other powerful adversaries.

He struggled against Shaak Ti and Vader but eventually defeated them. Shan is actually more then a match for both Shaak Ti and Vader.

Some information about Shan:

The Grand Master had impressed with more than her telekinetic and telepathic skills. Her speed and decisiveness in combat were unbelievable—but she never once made a sound. Her face was calm, almost serene, as she slashed and hacked through the hexes. There was a tranquillity about her, almost a blissfulness, that spoke of an intimacy with violence Ax had not expected.

To the Sith, violence was an art form. To Master Satele, it seemed like life itself.

Source: (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance)

More here: http://www.swtor.com/info/holonet/biographies/jedi-grand-master-satele-shan

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Shan is most likely to;

- Stalemate
- Win

Shan can handle Force powers of Marek. She can block Marek's lightsaber with bare hands, possibly break it apart in the process; with such power, she can send Marek packing.

Honestly, I don't think so. In terms of speed, Vader has more impressive feats than Shan. They both have impressive force feats, but vader most likely has the advantage here too. In terms of sabers, it could go either way. I can agree that she'd beat shaak ti tho.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Honestly, I don't think so. In terms of speed, Vader has more impressive feats than Shan. They both have impressive force feats, but vader most likely has the advantage here too. In terms of sabers, it could go either way. I can agree that she'd beat shaak ti tho.

Vader (OT)? Are you out of your mind?

No he isn't.

yeah, because all you seem to notice are the movies, right? Vader has collapsed entire structures/a cathedral with his force ability, has moved so fast that a force user couldn't even see him, and has defeated 4 jedi masters whilst he was still getting used to his suit. he was also described by palpatine as the most powerful force user he's ever met (most likely in terms of potential/raw power, as most of his hamperings were psychological)

When did Palpatine say that?

In the dark lord novel by Luceno.

I've read that twice. He never said that.

I don't remember where it is, but from palpatine's viewpoint, he thought he could "re-awaken" his potential, if he got over his psychological hamperings, which he, sadly, never did.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Marek in all.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
yeah, because all you seem to notice are the movies, right?

No! I will contest mindless wanking of PT/OT characters at any point.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ Vader has collapsed entire structures/a cathedral with his force ability,

How big is this structure?

Shan shattered an extremely heavy "rock formation" in to tiny pieces with her power; that "rock formation" would have weighed hundreds of tons. To give you an idea, this rock weighs 340 tons. The "rock formation" which Shan destroyed was seemingly bigger then this one, it was part of a cliff.

Even that large tree which Shan knocked down with a gesture from a single hand would have weighed hundred tons or more; large trees are extremely heavy in real life.

Shan performed the aforementioned feats as a Knight. I am sure that she became more powerful afterwards.

In-fact, after facing Shan on Aldeeran, Malgus defeated a Force-user of Vader's caliber in strength in the Force (That Force-user collapsed two buildings around the position of Malgus with his Force abilities). And Malgus couldn't hold a candle to Shan when she went all out on him.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
has moved so fast that a force user couldn't even see him, and has defeated 4 jedi masters whilst he was still getting used to his suit.

And how competent is this Force-user?

In contrast, Ax was a powerful Force-user who found Shan to be "unbelievably fast." Shan actually is unbelievably fast since she effortlessly dodged attacks of Malgus who is a remarkable lightsaber duelist by all accounts (one of the finest in galactic history not just in claim but in deeds as well since have have struck down other remarkably talented lightsaber duelists).

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
he was also described by palpatine as the most powerful force user he's ever met (most likely in terms of potential/raw power, as most of his hamperings were psychological)

So Vader (OT) is superior to even Yoda? Give me a break.

And show me proof of this claim.

By the way, Sidious regarded Malgus as one of his strongest predecessors with unparalleled accomplishments and feats. He considered Malgus as a role model Sith for Vader to follow.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
No he isn't.

I disagree

Satele only destroyed the rock formation due to her previous tutaminis of malgus. an example would be:

"In an instant all physical agony ceased as effectively as if I'd flicked a switch and turned all my pain receptors off. All I was left with was an incredible clarity of mind and a singleness of purpose. I'd dedicated my life to the service of others, to the service of the Force. I would not go out without my duty being fulfilled. I concentrated and employed the greatest Halcyon gift against my enemy.

I sucked the energy out of the Anzati's lightsaber and forced myself to smile as I did so. I tasted blood in my mouth, but that fact elicited no panic. It was inconsequential. More telling was the look of surprise on Tyris' face as his blue blade flickered once, then twice, then went out. I'd drained it of every last joule and let him read in my eyes that he should suddenly be very afraid.

With the energy I'd pulled in I plucked him from the ground in a giant invisible fist. He screamed, I think; at least his mouth worked as if he was screaming. I made the fist convulse once and I felt no resistance as his bones shattered. I let him hang limp in the air for a moment, then hurled him back through the tents to slam him against the dome and a support. I felt a jolt through the Force and saw a blue flash of light, but by then my energy reserves had faded."

BTW, the guy who did this, Nejaa Halcyon, is a very weak at telekinesis.

malgus couldn't hold a candle to shan, what? Malgus would have killed shan, had malcolm not interfered.

Also, re-read my post about vader, Palpatine said that because he still had the potential of the chosen one, just that his psychological hamperings would not allow him to unleash it.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Satele only destroyed the rock formation due to her previous tutaminis of malgus. an example would be:

"In an instant all physical agony ceased as effectively as if I'd flicked a switch and turned all my pain receptors off. All I was left with was an incredible clarity of mind and a singleness of purpose. I'd dedicated my life to the service of others, to the service of the Force. I would not go out without my duty being fulfilled. I concentrated and employed the greatest Halcyon gift against my enemy.

I sucked the energy out of the Anzati's lightsaber and forced myself to smile as I did so. I tasted blood in my mouth, but that fact elicited no panic. It was inconsequential. More telling was the look of surprise on Tyris' face as his blue blade flickered once, then twice, then went out. I'd drained it of every last joule and let him read in my eyes that he should suddenly be very afraid.

With the energy I'd pulled in I plucked him from the ground in a giant invisible fist. He screamed, I think; at least his mouth worked as if he was screaming. I made the fist convulse once and I felt no resistance as his bones shattered. I let him hang limp in the air for a moment, then hurled him back through the tents to slam him against the dome and a support. I felt a jolt through the Force and saw a blue flash of light, but by then my energy reserves had faded."

BTW, the guy who did this, Nejaa Halcyon, is a very weak at telekinesis.


No source confirms that Shan augmented her power by absorbing the energy of the lightsaber. If she could knock down a gigantic tree (possibly weighing 100 tons or more) with a gesture from a single hand while holding an extremely powerful Force-user at bay (Malgus) with another hand; she could pull off that "rock formation" shattering feat with her own power.

Also, Shan could easily make it possible for her to augment her power by absorbing the energy of the lightsaber of her opponent during combat situations.

Besides, Shan have some crazy abilities; she blew apart some hex droids simultaneously with a single gesture. In-fact, in the opening scene of the Hope trailer, when Shan had just landed on the ground, she unleashed some mysterious power which instantly killed 3 Sith warriors simultaneously. Shan is hell of a lot more competent Force-user then Nejaa. God knows what else she have in her arsenal.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
malgus couldn't hold a candle to shan, what? Malgus would have killed shan, had malcolm not interfered.

Yes! But I am referring to the scene when Shan went all out on him. That was when Malgus was utterly outclassed.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Also, re-read my post about vader, Palpatine said that because he still had the potential of the chosen one, just that his psychological hamperings would not allow him to unleash it.

Sidious may have thought of that but this was not possible. GL himself confirmed that Anakin lost his potential after his major injuries.