Originally posted by Zack Fair
I feel sorry for anyone arguing for WW.
It's funny how people say that, when it's quite easy. One, Checkmate in-universe rates them pretty similarly. Two, when both go all-out against each other, both get badly hurt. Three, she's got the most reliable defensive item in comics on her side.
Originally posted by Zack FairPeople have a good reason to argue for WW, just because you think superman is the best at everything does not hinder other posters from giving their opinions. Thats the trouble with supes fans, they think their opinion is gold and any conflicting opinions are hate or lol worthy.
I feel sorry for anyone arguing for WW.Also LOL@JBL's vendetta.
Originally posted by Q99And superman healed from a kryptonite sword impaled through his heart in moments.
[B]Well, obviously being impaled through the middle of the chest is still going to do some major damage, even for Demeter's blessing (the source of her healing factor)!It's not Wolverine-level healing mind you (or maybe, 80s Wolverine level), but the gift of Demeter means she has a history of taking fairly major injury and then being in near-top shape just a little while later. Eyes of the Gorgon, getting impaled through the side didn't require breaking out the purple ray.
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/healing/supermanbatman18a.jpg
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Like the Sacrifice storyline, about an hour later she was facing high-level foes again and was having fun while doing so, she wasn't even tired.You are talking the storyline where superman healed from a slit throat in moments?
Way back in the George Perez run, her healing was emphasized much more than invuln (during that point she was lower-powered), and one of the things that made Cheetah scary was cuts from her wouldn't close fast.I've read Perez's wonder woman and she wasn't even close to how fast superman heals.
Supes' yellow sunlight lets him replenish energy if he's depleted, but not heal wounds as well. Like, if you do break his arm, it'll take awhile to heal on it's own. Faster than a human to be sure (and faster still if he can get the fortress robots to work on it), but WW's would be better the next day.Then you don't know anything about superman. That's exactly what happened against imperiex war and he healed from it in one page.
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/healing/ActionComics781a.jpg
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Gail's run- She just stood there and took a beating from a GL until she was black and blue... and a few minutes later it was almost gone.She was still hurt and its nothing compared to what superman has healed through, not to mention he has shrugged off hal jordan's killing attacks.
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/supermanbatman29a.jpg
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That just shows how inferior her durability is.
And the Rise of the Olympian storyline. Let me walk you through the events that take place during just part of a single day:You forgot to mention purple ray was used for her and she had gauntlet of atlas boosting her stamina in between those fights.Start out by being beaten within an inch of her life by Genocide, obviously badly hurt.
A bit later, after Genocide trashes the JLA, go and fight her again (with friends), forcing a retreat.
Then take on and take down Cheetah's chapter of the Society of Supervillains, trashing a few. Then face Cheetah. Get clawed up before taking her down (while complaining about being tired).
Then fight Achilles (a foe with the literal heart of a god meant to be her replacement), and win. Then stop a nuke.
Then fight Genocide again, seems to fight at full power, with no sign of injury hindering her, and win.
Then return home, fight some giant sea monsters, and kill Ares.
She gets multiple major wounds at several points in her day, and still faces multiple herald foes at the end, including one who's already proven herself capable of beating WW, and yet the breaks in between bring her back up to a level where she's at full strength and speed.Absolutely nothing compared to what superman has faced and he doesn't get nearly killed by someone close to him in strength. Heck, he has battled Bizarro for days straight up non-stop and had nothing on him as a wound.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16670061/Supe80_066.jpg.html
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That's what invulnerability means.
Originally posted by Q99
It's funny how people say that, when it's quite easy. One, Checkmate in-universe rates them pretty similarly. Two, when both go all-out against each other, both get badly hurt. Three, she's got the most reliable defensive item in comics on her side.
Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman in all 3, even without the Bracers.
So bullets bounce off wonder woman too?
Originally posted by abhilegendThen why make this thread if WW is so inferior to superman in your eyes? You the thread maker and question maker have more scans and arguements for one side. Can people please try and debate without the thread starter one-sided input??. I knew you would do this.
And superman healed from a kryptonite sword impaled through his heart in moments.http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/healing/supermanbatman18a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/healing/supermanbatman18b.jpgYou are talking the storyline where superman healed from a slit throat in moments?
I've read Perez's wonder woman and she wasn't even close to how fast superman heals.
Then you don't know anything about superman. That's exactly what happened against imperiex war and he healed from it in one page.
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/healing/ActionComics781a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/healing/ActionComics781b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/healing/ActionComics781c.jpgShe was still hurt and its nothing compared to what superman has healed through, not to mention he has shrugged off hal jordan's killing attacks.
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/supermanbatman29a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/supermanbatman29b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/supermanbatman29c.jpgThat just shows how inferior her durability is.
You forgot to mention purple ray was used for her and she had gauntlet of atlas boosting her stamina in between those fights.
Absolutely nothing compared to what superman has faced and he doesn't get nearly killed by someone close to him in strength. Heck, he has battled Bizarro for days straight up non-stop and had nothing on him as a wound.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16670061/Supe80_066.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16670063/Supe80_067.jpg.html
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http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16670073/Supe80_075.jpg.htmlThat's what invulnerability means.
Originally posted by JBL
Then why make this thread if WW is so inferior to superman in your eyes? You the thread maker and question maker have more scans and arguements for one side. Can people please try and debate without the thread starter one-sided input??. I knew you would do this.
Originally posted by JBL👆
Bait thread. If someone ranks WW higher than superman, you will take over any debate with low showings of WW and the highest you can find for superman. Why create this type of thread when we know who you will defend to the end? Let me train you how to make superman shine the right way.
Originally posted by Zack FairSo there is no problem with the guy who you yourself admit created a spite thread in which she has no chance. The guy who created it is not the problem but instead it is the people who argue otherwise. Wow.
I feel sorry for anyone arguing for WW.Also LOL@JBL's vendetta.
Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]Like I said checkmate had Mr. Terrific as the smartest being on earth, its not reliable in the least. Also 😂 @ being badly hurt, superman was breaking her arms like twig and all she did was cut his throat with a magical tiara.
And made his ears bleed, and bruise his ribs, and hurt his leg...
He was showing signs of injury before the throat cut.
And superman healed from a kryptonite sword impaled through his heart in moments.http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums...anbatman18a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums...anbatman18b.jpg
Ok, wow, that's pretty crazy.
Enough so that there's gotta be something else going on like magic healing or something. Superman doesn't recover from normal kryptonite exposure that fast without wounds, and the presence of kryptonite should slow his healing anyway.
Then you don't know anything about superman. That's exactly what happened against imperiex war and he healed from it in one page.http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums...nComics781a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums...nComics781b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums...nComics781c.jpg
Ah, good example!
Because, you see, he broke his arm against the Russian Zod before the before Imperiex drones attacked.
I.e. at that point he's had the break for two days (as it mentions the time since the first probe that hit Topeka, and that was what interrupting the Zod fight). Rather than healing it in one page, he's managing despite a wound from an entire prior battle.
Thanks for bringing it up for me, I forgot about the Zod break and it's a good example.
Originally posted by Q99Only ears bleed and that was with a huge suckershot with indestructible bracers. Batman did the same to wonder woman 5 issues earlier under the same writer. There is no mention of ribs broken or hurting leg, its pure speculation on your part.
And made his ears bleed, and bruise his ribs, and hurt his leg...
He was showing signs of injury before the throat cut.Nope.
Ok, wow, that's pretty crazy.You want something else? His blood was transmuted to kryptonite just before that.Enough so that there's gotta be something else going on like magic healing or something. Superman doesn't recover from normal kryptonite exposure that fast without wounds, and the presence of kryptonite should slow his healing anyway.
He has also had his heart torn out by Emperor Joker and still lived.
Ah, good example!That was his jaw and he healed through it too.Because, you see, he broke his arm against the Russian Zod before the before Imperiex drones attacked.
I.e. at that point he's had the break for two days (as it mentions the time since the first probe that hit Topeka, and that was what interrupting the Zod fight). Rather than healing it in one page, he's managing despite a wound from an entire prior battle.Nah, it was a different instance. Ignition broke his leg too and it healed just after superman re-attached it.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16672403/actioncomics769p14.jpg.html
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Thanks for bringing it up for me, I forgot about the Zod break and it's a good example.Zod didn't break his arm.
Zod didn't break his arm.
Oh yea, it's all coming back to me! There was a break in their first fight, and then Superman flashed back to it repeatedly in their second... the fact that Russian Zod broke his bones was something they made a big deal of, even!
Thanks, I would've forgotten that. It's always nice when someone else brings in stuff for me.
I'd expect nothing less (more?) from Abhilegend.
This thread should be closed. It is purely a bait thread. There is not a viable discussion to be had here. Without bracers it's clearly Superman in all 3. With bracers, it's clearly WW in all 3. Since the OP already stated that it's w/o bracers, it's merely a thread for him/her to post scans showing how awesome Superman is and how inferior WW is to him. It's even more glaring that the one area of durability where there could actually be an argument for WW - magic - was left out.
It's actually fairly pathetic, but it's the internet so I can't say that I'm surprised.
