Originally posted by comicfan11Killer Croc is more durable than WW when it comes to piercing attacks...
I take you don't read a-lot of Wonder Woman comics. She can only be pierce by magical artifacts: Cheetah's claws.... It's been stated, over and over again in comics. Gail Simone gave a great explanation in her run.
Originally posted by aztec
I take you don't read a-lot of Wonder Woman comics. She can only be pierce by magical artifacts: Cheetah's claws.... It's been stated, over and over again in comics. Gail Simone gave a great explanation in her run.
So a normal bullet would bounce of her?
Has she ever done that on panel?
Because I remember her being shot like a normal human, although it was pre Simone for sure.
But still I don't buy it If I don't see it.
Any scans of WW vs bullets (no bracers)?
Or normal bladed melee weapons.
Originally posted by comicfan11
So a normal bullet would bounce of her?
Has she ever done that on panel?
Because I remember her being shot like a normal human, although it was pre Simone for sure.
But still I don't buy it If I don't see it.
Any scans of WW vs bullets (no bracers)?
I'd have to go through all of my Wonder Woman trades. She's had various upgrades through out the years. To be honest, it depends on the writer, I've seen her breath outside space before, so her stats vary from writer to writer. I am however, confident that she's taken bullets before and no significant damage whatsoever.
If I'm not mistaken, there are a couple of instances in Greg Rucka's run. I'll get back at you as soon as I can. If I can recall correctly the Police was shooting at her, because Dr. Psycho made them believe she was the Joker.
I'm not stating Diana is Superman's superior, lets face it, she's not, but she does have some advantages over him, which might be able to tip the scales once in a while: fighting speed, bracers and martial arts are her greatest asset against Kal El. Anyway, I always give Clark the majority over her. I just prefer debating for Diana, since many posters aren't familiar with the warrior.
Nice.
If you find any feats let me know.
I'm familiar with her major feats and appearances mostly from Perez and Simone era but it would be interesting to see any feats against piercing damage.
Although to be honest I think that if WW was truly invun vs piercing it would be more well known.
The vast majority of fans believe that she is not, but I'm curious to see anything that disproves that.
Originally posted by comicfan11
Nice.
If you find any feats let me know.
I'm familiar with her major feats and appearances mostly from Perez and Simone era but it would be interesting to see any feats against piercing damage.
Although to be honest I think that if WW was truly invun vs piercing it would be more well known.
The vast majority of fans believe that she is not, but I'm curious to see anything that disproves that.
I'll definitely go through all of the appearances I have of hers and get back to you as soon as I can. If not today, I'll make a quick note of it and send you a private message sometime this week. Diana has pretty impressive feats that people tend to disregard. I believe she has a better track record against speedsters than Superman. She's out smarted Zoom, Powergirl, Superman (OMAC - outsmarted/survived) bested Cheetah, Wally West, Amazo and has impressed Barry himself.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He transmuted her, superman powered through his blast. How is that not a better showing of durability?
Because they were two different attacks. She didn't get transmutated by the blast. She powered through it as well. It was the subsequent spell that turned her into clay.
Originally posted by abhilegend Also this is pre-DCnU superman and wonder woman, pay attention.
Then perhaps you should actually state that when you start a thread.
Originally posted by abhilegend You sure as heck looked to be whining that superman is more durable than wonder woman.
It's not whining. It's stating something incredibly obvious to anyone with half a brain. But as others have said, I don't know why I was surprised. When I saw who started the thread, I should have known that nothing good would come from actually reading it.
Originally posted by aztec
Diana did better against Amazo, Aquman Cheetah and Batman. 😉
Originally posted by aztec
I'll definitely go through all of the appearances I have of hers and get back to you as soon as I can. If not today, I'll make a quick note of it and send you a private message sometime this week. Diana has pretty impressive feats that people tend to disregard. I believe she has a better track record against speedsters than Superman. She's out smarted Zoom, Powergirl, Superman (OMAC - outsmarted/survived) bested Cheetah, Wally West, Amazo and has impressed Barry himself.
She "does" well against speedsters? Zoom was handling her like a child in both of his fights untill Rucka intervened with Zoom distracting himself in the first fight. Superman actually races speedsters on foot and does respectfully well against them to the point that barry allen was frustrated that superman stalemates him while holding back.In Rebirth Superman matched Barry in speed when he left everybody including wonder woman in dust.
Professor Zoom tells that superman's reflexes nearly match his own
He catches Wally who was running out of control by racing him
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Speed/flight/JLAClassified16a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Speed/flight/JLAClassified16b.jpgHe has blitzed Bizarro who wonder woman had difficulty even seeing when he hit her etc.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Because they were two different attacks. She didn't get transmutated by the blast. She powered through it as well. It was the subsequent spell that turned her into clay.Then perhaps you should actually state that when you start a thread.
It's not whining. It's stating something incredibly obvious to anyone with half a brain. But as others have said, I don't know why I was surprised. When I saw who started the thread, I should have known that nothing good would come from actually reading it.
Its obvious from the start. Next time I would do that.
Then its your fault for reading it. Nobody forced you to do it.
Originally posted by JBL
Then why make this thread if WW is so inferior to superman in your eyes? You the thread maker and question maker have more scans and arguements for one side. Can people please try and debate without the thread starter one-sided input??. I knew you would do this.
What's wrong with him making a thread and challenging all on comers for any given topic? If it's a "bait thread" it just makes you look stupidly hooked for even posting. I'm just not down with the backseat modding I guess, and I really don't get how making a thread and playing king of the hill with it is a bad thing. It's a good way to make discussions happen which is what we are all here for. Nothing personal JBL, you are a wrestling god after all. (Good color-commentator too)
Originally posted by aztec
I take you don't read a-lot of Wonder Woman comics. She can only be pierce by magical artifacts: Cheetah's claws.... It's been stated, over and over again in comics. Gail Simone gave a great explanation in her run.
Heck, in... *shudders* Amazons Attack, she catches an enchanted spear wielded by a superhuman amazon bare-handed.
And her bones seem to have no special weakness to piercing. When she hit Genocide (who, well, *is* her body) with her magic axe, she had to work to get it to go deeper.
Originally posted by Q99
Heck, in... *shudders* Amazons Attack, she catches an enchanted spear wielded by a superhuman amazon bare-handed.And her bones seem to have no special weakness to piercing. When she hit Genocide (who, well, *is* her body) with her magic axe, she had to work to get it to go deeper.
Originally posted by OdekahnBecause of what he has done all over this thread. How can any poster debate with another when the moment one of them say that WW wins any or all 3, he comes in and take over with his love for superman. Why not let the people debate for themselves? His input is not needed as he is the thread starter. Why ask a question when you know the answer ( because you set it up one-sided to start with ) and when others try and give their opinions you reveal your intentions again. Only the ones that vote superman are spared his ranting. Guess why?
What's wrong with him making a thread and challenging all on comers for any given topic? If it's a "bait thread" it just makes you look stupidly hooked for even posting. I'm just not down with the backseat modding I guess, and I really don't get how making a thread and playing king of the hill with it is a bad thing. It's a good way to make discussions happen which is what we are all here for. Nothing personal JBL, you are a wrestling god after all. (Good color-commentator too)
Originally posted by JBL
Because of what he has done all over this thread. How can any poster debate with another when the moment one of them say that WW wins any or all 3, he comes in and take over with his love for superman. Why not let the people debate for themselves? His input is not needed as he is the thread starter. Why ask a question when you know the answer ( because you set it up one-sided to start with ) and when others try and give their opinions you reveal your intentions again. Only the ones that vote superman are spared his ranting. Guess why?
If he starts attacking people, then ok, you have a point. But if he's just attacking their arguments, then so what? I've started up discussions in which I already had an opinion, and upon seeing what others say, I will question and test what they say. I took it as he asked to start a discussion about it. It's a topic he wanted to discuss bad enough to make a thread about it, so of course he's going to interject his opinion. All I have seen him do is stick to the topic he started, he has kept it topical and everyone else turned it personal. Maybe there's just something that happened in another thread that I don't know about? It's none of my business either way, I was just commenting on what I observed in this particular thread. Oh well, anyways... Not to change the subject, but JBL > Bobby Heenan on commentary imo. Thoughts?
Originally posted by Zack FairFlip flopper.
I'm arrogant? You're the one making claims about my reasoning behind my post. No where in my post did I say people cannot disagree. Stop trying to make an issue where there is none.But really I'm not going to bother with you. I explained why I said what I said. You don't believe me, so that is that.
