What if Qui Gon Never Died?

Started by GordonSkywalker8 pages

Yes, yes I agree with the Ushman.

Hello! Xanatos!!!!

He is an EU character strictly and therefore is not relevant to the discussion here.

Originally posted by LaurenE147
Hello! Xanatos!!!!

Hi! LaurenE!!! 😛

Yes QGJ is one of the best Jedi teachers ever. Agreed!

Agreed!

He was one of the best anything. He was just a little to slow for DM.

He held his own pretty good for a while though.

I heard that Qui Gon is to appear in episode 3 like Obi Wan did in episodes 5 & 6 to stop anakin going to the darkside. But thats just me.

Originally posted by cookies2006
He was one of the best anything. He was just a little to slow for DM.

Yeah but DM had an advantage with his doule bladed lightsabre 😕 😕

it's only an advantage when you're very good with it

Yeah you cant be weak minded and plan to use it for an advantage.

Personally I don't think Qui Gon would have made a difference. I think he might have even made it possibly worse cause even when every1 tried to at least warn him that Anakin was possibly dangerous he just completely disregarded it and I get he believed he was right but if he did train Anakin he mite of overlooked things Anakin did wrong more cause he felt he was the only 1 who believed in Anakin and every1 else was wrong.I don't no if I explain that great but i hope y'all get what I mean.

Ppl always say that obviously Qui Gon must be a great teacher cause Obi turned out so great but that cud just mean that Obi was a great student and a really hard worker,not 2 say Qui was bad tho but he was pretty lucky he got such a cool padawan who wasn't such a glory hog like sum1 else we know, not mentioning names................ cough.........Anakin...cough lol

And if Anakin was such a great guy and a saint then he'd of stayed in the light no matter what.

I think one of the reasons anakin went bad besides his mother is that his second father died(QGJ). He was just like his second dad, QGJ had all the confidence in the world for anakin.

ush is right, as is gordon. qui gon jinn was an accomplished jedi master, much more experienced than obi wan. he was far better suited to train anakin. also, mauls youth and speed and stamina wre as big an advantage to him as his dual blades. you can tell that qui gon was exhausted right before maul killed him. i think he was supposed to be in his fifties, wheras maul was probably as young as obi wan, perhaps a bit older. not sure on their age.

as for xanatos, hey, it happens. look at dooku. he was qui gons teacher(wasnt he? or was it that he was yodas padawan? whatever.) and he fell to the dark side. he was a JEDI MASTER who fell to the dark side. xanatos was only a padawan. qui gon jinn wasnt perfect.

Age is not really a major factor in such swordfights. Maul lilled him by simply outfighting him at the time. It happens.

Yeah, but Maul did have alil help by being younger and the double helix lightsaber. Plus his overraging devil powers.

age is definitely a factor in any kind of fight. i think that qui gon was actually a better swordsman than maul. maul had youth, stamina, and 2 blades to qui gons one. lets look at it like this. lets say you have allen iverson playing michael jordan one on one. sure, jordan is the better player, but iverson is young with much more stamina. who is going to have the advantage late in the game? iverson, just like maul had over qui gon.

That double-bladed sabre is NO advantage. In any realistic sense it is a liability. It is a dreadful weapon- it just LOOKS good, is all. The most effective sabre type seen in the films is the SINGLE blade- little wonder this is the choice of the Masters. Only young show-offs would use two sabres or a double-ended one.

It is a mistake to compare a purely athletic pursuit like basketball with swordfighting. In a swordfight, skill is more important than ANY other consideration. Age is barely a factor at all. Go watch some Kendo masters in their 80s beating players four times younger than them. It is amazing, but it happens, because all the speed and fitness and reflexes in the world are utterly useless against the sheer skill of a swordmaster. Speed is in fact a liability for one who wants to be a Master swordsman- something you must learn to fight without, because speed will fade and if you rely on it you will die. Skill is king. And Star Wars CLEARLY shows that age is no factor what with Dooku and Yoda being such unstoppable Master swordsmen.

No. Maul simply outfought Qui-Gon at that point. Like I said- it happens. Maul's greatest asset was his amazing skill for his age.

Nick Gilliard understands how these things work. Hard not to have respect for the man. He has the young, fast swordsmen fight in their way and the older, more skilled ones fight in theirs; Dooku's disciplined, skillful strokes humiliating Anakin's rapid, two-sabre attacks was a joy to watch. What good did Anakin's two sabres and youth do him there? None at all; just got him a lost limb. Skill wins. Age is nothing.

That said, if two fighters are of approximately the same skill, obviously the faster one is more likely to win.