Darth Nihilus Vs Darth Sidious

Started by mstanford291217 pages

Oh, within range? I guess Nihilus' range was "a planet". So at the very least, in terms of range they are not the same.

Beefy, you're being silly.

Nihilus's technique leeches life and the Force; the Dark Reaper leeches the life and the Force. If Anakin can resist one, why would we automatically assume he can't resist the other?

But Anakin cannot resist one. He can resist the dark reaper for a short time. Stop being misleading.

Originally posted by mstanford2912
But Anakin cannot resist one. He can resist the dark reaper for a short time. Stop being misleading.

I didn't say Anakin could resist one indefinitely. I said he could resist one, which is true. (You then agreed with in your next sentence. You merely attached a time table to it.)

Stop being illiterate.

Resisting "for a short time" isn't really resisting is it? Especially since Nihilus doesn't exactly turn the drain off like a machine.

You're conflating "resistance" with "immunity." Anakin is not immune to the effects of the Reaper, but he can resist it.

Just like when a suspect resists arrest; he's probably still going to wind up on the floor, Tased and drooling, but he did resist.

Setting the semantics aside, it's not at all a leap to conclude that Anakin can resist Nihilus's drain long enough to issue a counterattack. Whether or not it would be effective is up to debate, but there's no reason to think he'd just turn Anakin or anyone else with proficiency and skill with Force drain into a giant slurpee.

it's not at all a leap to conclude that Anakin can resist Nihilus's drain long enough to issue a counterattack.

It depends if Anakin can do anything else while "resisting" the attack

He heard Uliq's instruction of how to defeat the Reaper while fighting it.

The purpose remains the same: draining life. Maybe the methods are different, but the outcome and the effect is exactly the same. It is an exact replication of what Nihilus does. There's nothing to suggest we should take it as a different thing.

Even if Sidious has Uliqs method of resisting the drain, said drain works by calling on the Force to refill your Force energy as its being drained. It doesn't actually stop the drain.

Which raises the question: Does anyone seriously think Sidious can take Nihilus after Nihilus has drained Sidious' own personal power? Even if Sidious gets it back thats gonna make Nihilus like twice as powerful than him. And Nihilus can just keep it up and constantly get more powerful.

If I'm immune to being run over by a vehicle, I'm immune to both a sports car and a SUV.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
If I'm immune to being run over by a vehicle, I'm immune to both a sports car and a SUV.

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If I'm immune to being run over by a vehicle, I'm immune to both a sports car and a tank.

Makes perfect sense.

Yep. Anakin's immune to Force Drain. Unless it's proven Nihilus uses a different technique, he's immune to Force Drain coming from both the Reaper and Nihilus.

Sidious is not going to be able to resist Nihilus Drain, because unlike the reaper machine Nihilus devours the life energy and force energy not only in the targeted person but also in the entire area.

The Reaper machine drains the life energy of living beings, Nihilus devours the force/life energy in an entire area.

Thus what external force energy is sidious going to pull into himself to counter Nihilus?

Furthermore Sidious has no way of preventing nihilus from becoming infinitely stronger as he devours the force energy all around them indefinitely. Nihilus never stops draining.

Nihilus would never have time to drain Sidious as the latter would kill him instantly.

Bullshit.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Bullshit.

Not really, seeing as how Sidious is infinitely more powerful than the Exile and she managed to outduel Nihilus in pure saber combat.

Who's to say Sidious can't blitz Nihilus before he can even attempt to drain him?

The burden of proof is on the Nihilus side to prove he'll last longer than Kolar, Tiin and Fisto, all of who possesses better physical feats than Nihilus, yet two of them didn't even attempt to defend themselves.