Don't hate me for this now, but I say that Void solos :-/
(I think that Odinforce Thor would solo it as well, but I'm not going to make arguments for Thor)
Regarding Void:
War Hulk gained a nice power up, but at the same time we could see him being affected by something on an emotional level, which helped him to break free from Apocalypses mind-control.
His armor was durable, but so is Captain America's vibranium shield and Void's intangible tentacles went without any problems through it. They went through Iron Man's armor, they went through Vision, they went through Thor's body and they went through Hulk's body. They totally ignore any kind of durability and judging by him attacking Vision they even ignore phasing (but maybe Void was simply too fast for Vision).
When Void's tentacles touch you, you're ****ed, especially if you're "vulnerable" on an emotional base and we saw the tentacles being very effective on the Hulk, mind-raping him in a matter of moments:
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Hulk is a troubled soul :-7 I can see Void's tentacles simply going through Hulk, mind-raping him badly.
The same applies for Superman.
I'm one of the people, who will argue that Thor has far better feats than Superman and judging by that that he is the overall more powerful being - but look what Void did to him:
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I simply don't think that Superman has what it takes to beat the Void, even when he is amped up.
What defeated the Void were the affects of the Norn stones. Loki used the Norn stones to give the heroes new powers (just like the Hood gained reality warping powers before them) and then the Avengers were able to take the Void down.
Unless Superman develops reality warping, I don't see him beating the Void, no matter how much additional solar radiation he absorbed prior to the fight.
DC characters tend to call Superman godlike, but damn :-7 Compared to the power of some Marvel heroes Superman doesn't really look good. Of course he has amazing feats, but he is a brawler and I am talking about some ridiculous levels of molecule manipulation like the Sentry has it or Thor's plot device Mjolnir and with the Odin Force on top of that? AY!
Originally posted by Enzeru
Loki used the Norn stones to give the heroes new powers (just like the Hood gained reality warping powers before them) and then the Avengers were able to take the Void down.
Unless Superman develops reality warping, I don't see him beating the Void, no matter how much additional solar radiation he absorbed prior to the fight.
Do you think all the Avengers became reality warpers when they got the Norn stones, then?
Originally posted by Insane Titan
The heroes got rivived by the norm stones that's it
No, that's not it and you should really pay attention, when you read comic books and not go with what you want to believe.
I'll answer DarkSaint85 now in full detail and I'm giving you the advice to read all of that carefully.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Do you think all the Avengers became reality warpers when they got the Norn stones, then?
Who knows exactly. Brian Michael Bendis doesn't liketo explain his stuff in comics properly and to figure out what he had in mind you really have to dig deep :-7 Take a good look at this:
At first you have to realize that the Hood had the Norn stones for a while and they gave him the power to warp the reality. He had some other equipment, which granted him other abilities, but the Norn stones were capable of fulfilling wishes = warping the reality.
The Void was STOMPING the Avengers and everyone else on the battlefield:
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Loki realized how powerful the opponent was and took the Norn stones back to give it to the heroes and empower them:
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Do you see the glowing aura around the heroes after the gained the power upgrade? They're shining in colors of the rainbow and saying interesting stuff like:
"Yo Daisy, do we get to keep these new powers, when we're done?"
"I can't believe Loki did this. He took our power and gave it to them!"
On the third scan you even see Captain America cutting through Void like through butter by a simple shield toss and the shield is boosted as well, since the aura is around it as well.
CAPTAIN AMERICA HARMING THE VOID! IMAGINE THAT! Here is Captain America without a power upgrade, when it came to fights against the Void:
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He is spending high quality time under Void's foot!
It continues and the Void confirms that the Avengers have new powers. He realizes that Loki is doing it and attacks Loki:
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"Your new powers..."
"So much for the power upgrade."
And with Loki and the Norn stones dead and gone they all lose their power upgrades. What saved them at that point was that the Void was already badly hurt and regenerating slowly. Thor continued to attack him and the big ass explosion from the Helicarrier weakened Void enough so that Robert could regain control and make an important decision.
Now you tell me ...
Did the Marvel heroes gained new powers, which gave them the ability to overcome the Void? Void was only beaten once in a real battle and that was against the Sentry himself, who overall has better feats than the Void. I'm talking about moon and planet busting - about molecule manipulation powerful enough to take out the Molecule Man, the stalemating of uber-powerful opponents, while being in a weakened state and other feats where Thor needed the Odinforce to pull them off as well.
Void-Sentry > Superman, no matter how much sundip he has IMO.
Originally posted by EnzeruWith less than one minute sundip superman was going to destroy Worloggog Vera Black and she hastily rewrote the whole reality to avoid it. With a proper sundip he overpowered Imperiex prime's energies which created a new big bang. You don't know what you're talking about.Void-Sentry > Superman, no matter how much sundip he has IMO.
Originally posted by abhilegend
With less than one minute sundip superman was going to destroy Worloggog Vera Black and she hastily rewrote the whole reality to avoid it. With a proper sundip he overpowered Imperiex prime's energies which created a new big bang. You don't know what you're talking about.
Ah I see, leaving out context on purpose (lying big time) to make your boy Superman look better, aight?
Brainiac was handeling Imperiex-Prime's energies just fine. Btw, Imperiex-Prime, one of the most featless badguys in comic book history.
On top of that cracking the armor of a villain seems to be a common way to do something in comics. Does anyone remember Anti-Monitor's armor crack and how it didn't do anything in the end? Or how cracking Galactus' armor happened few times as well, but in the end of the day it still doesn't mean anything?
Or how about Superman once again having help from others and failing to pull off certain feats like he always does, but Superman fans always tend to leave out scans, or take things totally out of context.
Way to go, man, way too go.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Hood was powered up by Dormammu, the Norn stones had nothing to do with it...
That's not the case.
In "New Avengers #51" the Hood loses his powers, because of a exorcism. In "New Avengers #54" makes a deal with Hood and offers him his powers back. In "New Avengers #57" the Hood gets the Norn stones and gets his powers back, but for that he has to help Osborn taking down Asgard.
In "Siege #4" Loki takes the Norn stones back and Hood loses his powers again.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
at least some one else read the comic too
*slap*
I'm waiting for a day for you to come up with a good post with any truth and value in it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
IIRC, he wasn't 'just' powered up by Dormammu, but was actually getting more and more possessed by him.In any case, by the end of the story arc, a lot of his power would have come from dormy.
As I said it, the Hood didn't have anything to do with Dormammu by the end of Siege. The Norn stones restored his powers, because that's what his wish was and he lost them again, when Loki stripped the Norn stones away.
Originally posted by EnzeruHahaha. You are one to talk.
Ah I see, leaving out context on purpose (lying big time) to make your boy Superman look better, aight?
Brainiac was handeling Imperiex-Prime's energies just fine.Nobody is talking about Brainiac 13.
Btw, Imperiex-Prime, one of the most featless badguys in comic book history.facepalm
On top of that cracking the armor of a villain seems to be a common way to do something in comics. Does anyone remember Anti-Monitor's armor crack and how it didn't do anything in the end? Or how cracking Galactus' armor happened few times as well, but in the end of the day it still doesn't mean anything?
You don't even know what you're talking about.
Imperiex prime actually created a second big bang when sundipped superman overpowered his energies and threw warworld to dawn of time.
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In another instance he would've destroyed a universal reality warper by a sundip of less than a minute. He beat Dominus who was multiversal reality warper by reversing his own reality warping on him.
Or how about Superman once again having help from others and failing to pull off certain feats like he always does, but Superman fans always tend to leave out scans, or take things totally out of context.Post all the stuff "mr. glowing aura means reality warping". Hey, superman is glowing too!! He punches Sentry's face in!
Way to go, man, way too go.Lulz..
