Enzeru is actually using facts from the comics. All you have to do is open up the comic and read it yourself. I'm not taking sides but the writer even confirms this himself. How is that an excuse? That is just going overboard. I know this is a debate and the primary objective to a debate is to have a counter prepared for your opponent, but atleast show some acknowledgment when facts are brought up out of respect.
Originally posted by Enzeruowned.
No excuses, just context, which you don't know anything about.It's the same as if I tell you that the Sentry, who fought World War Hulk was weakened, because there is context to it explaining it, but at the same time you have other mental midgets saying how Sentry was using his full power, while he really didn't.
Context, son, context.
Once again, you're TOTALLY ignoring context and it's ridiculous.
Check this out...
At first Thor tells the Void that he is going to smack him with all the power under his command and he does so - in the next scene Thor is getting the crap squeezed out of him, his eyes are wide and his face is all puffed up, just like Ares, before he got killed by the Void:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2180715-6.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2180716-7.jpgThen Robert Reynolds starts yelling at the Avengers to kill him and Thor smacks him again, while managing to kill him:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2180748-15.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2180749-16.jpgIt wasn't a mercy killing. It was Sentry's mercy that saved the day and everyone and their mother knows that, if they actually read the comics. You obviously didn't or at this point you're simply so butthurt over your boy Superman being stomped here that you won't be able to come up with a good argument anytime soon.
I think that's the saddest post you came up with in this entire thread.
First of all, you started throwing out random (pathetic) insults from nowhere and at the same time even failing to make actual points for why Superman should be a factor in this fight and now I'm the one with the tantrum? You have some serious problems, Raj.Wat? No, you don't.
You simply don't grasp something important: There are fights that you can't win with physical attributes alone and when it comes to fighting Odinforce Thor / Sentry... Superman isn't going to win, no matter how much sundip he has, because he is still the plain old Superman and he isn't going to compete with the vast versatility of his opponents.
As I said it in the beginning: Void-Sentry solos this entire fight.
War Hulk simply doesn't have enough feats to say where he stands, since everything he did was to beat the Juggernaut and in the end he is also just the plain old Hulk with more strength and few extras, but nothing game breaking.
Void-Sentry on the other hand? He totally annihilates Superman:
- A weakened Sentry stalemated WW Hulk and had the upper hand, someone who strength and durability wise stands above Superman as judging by him overpowering rays, which would have sent the world out of its orbit and taking Galactus' attacks,
- a slightly less weakened Sentry stalemated the Collective for multiple issues, someone, who easily empowered and then defeated the planet buster Binary and during their fight Sentry and Collective destroyed a moon in space and guess what, no one got knocked out, LOL,
- Sentry also defeated Blue Marvel, a guy who could have busted the moon with his punch by bullrushing him into the ground and overloading his durability,
- Sentry took on Photon, the empowered version of Genis-Vell, who was a threat to the entire universe after his power up and in that fight Sentry was busting planets, while still holding back,
- Sentry overloaded the Absorbing Man with power, someone, who once was in Asgard and absorbed their magic there including Odin's and was more than a match for Thor and Hulk over and over again ... and Sentry impressed the Absorbing Man with a fraction of his power, saying that he never tasted power like that before ... when he cut loose, Absorbing Man was gone,
- a pissed off Sentry overpowered the Molecule Man, a guy who was affecting galaxies and timelines during his fights,
- Sentry also broke through Doctor Doom's shields, which were protecting him from high end cosmic entities including Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet,
- Sentry beat the crap out of the Void multiple times and we're talking about his dark side, which broke the Hulk in one move and rendered him helpless for multiple days ... the Void, who overpowered Thor and everyone else on the battlefield with one attack ... the Void, who was ripping gods apart left and right, beat up multiple teams of superheroes including people like Black Bolt and Doctor Strange - at the same time he was trying to bust through the combined force fields of Doctor Strange, Invisible Girl and Iron Man and he was gaining the upper hand until Sentry gained the control again...
No, you tool - your boy Superman is not going to beat someone, who busts planet on a whim and stalemates one of the most powerful versions of the Hulk, while being in a weakened state - and that by either taking so much damage, that Hulk wasted all of his energy to put the Sentry down, or by taking care of the energy by himself by doing so much damage to the Hulk that the gamma energy was used to heal him - either way, it's a ridiculous feat, like so many others of his.
Wall of text FTW. I am going to enjoy this. Oh I will.
Originally posted by EnzeruHahaha.
No excuses, just context, which you don't know anything about.
It's the same as if I tell you that the Sentry, who fought World War Hulk was weakened, because there is context to it explaining it, but at the same time you have other mental midgets saying how Sentry was using his full power, while he really didn't.No sentry wasn't weakened because the writer made it abundantly clear he wasn't. You can do all the mental gymnastic you want to do, it wouldn't change anything.
Context, son, context.Yes, context clown, context.
Once again, you're TOTALLY ignoring context and it's ridiculous.I'm not ignoring anything. The only thing ridiculous is you being able to read anything.
Check this out...Means shit. Its not the first time this has happened and it won't be the last where heralds like Thor have said something like that. If thor had used Godblast, that would've been all his might.At first Thor tells the Void that he is going to smack him with all the power under his command and he does so - in the next scene Thor is getting the crap squeezed out of him, his eyes are wide and his face is all puffed up, just like Ares, before he got killed by the Void:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2180715-6.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2180716-7.jpgThen Robert Reynolds starts yelling at the Avengers to kill him and Thor smacks him again, while managing to kill him:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2180748-15.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2180749-16.jpg
It wasn't a mercy killing. It was Sentry's mercy that saved the day and everyone and their mother knows that, if they actually read the comics.Which was nowhere said in the actual comic.
You obviously didn't or at this point you're simply so butthurt over your boy Superman being stomped here that you won't be able to come up with a good argument anytime soon.I don't get butthurt over comic battles anyway and superman kills this pathetic piece of shit clone once and for all. Get angry and tell us how sentry is awesome for the hundredth time. Thor killed sentry, if you've ANY evidence other than conjecture from sentry begging Thor to kill him present it now. If you don't present it, I would accept your concession.
I think that's the saddest post you came up with in this entire thread.I KNOW that its not your saddest, you're going to get even more sad as this goes on. First you told me you don't want to waste time with me and now this essay? What, you think I'm quan?
First of all, you started throwing out random (pathetic) insults from nowhere and at the same time even failing to make actual points for why Superman should be a factor in this fight and now I'm the one with the tantrum?I posted actual feats and you started throwing tantrums that this feat doesn't count and "show real feats". I insulted the character sentry, you are still cool with me.
You have some serious problems, Raj.Its real cute how you still think I'm someone you thought two years ago. Real cute.
Wat? No, you don't.Lulz.
You simply don't grasp something important: There are fights that you can't win with physical attributes alone and when it comes to fighting Odinforce Thor / Sentry... Superman isn't going to win, no matter how much sundip he has, because he is still the plain old Superman and he isn't going to compete with the vast versatility of his opponents.Hahaha, this is getting hilarious. Superman was going to kill a universal abstract with less than a minute of sundip.
As I said it in the beginning: Void-Sentry solos this entire fight.Nobody gives a shit about what you said.
War Hulk simply doesn't have enough feats to say where he stands, since everything he did was to beat the Juggernaut and in the end he is also just the plain old Hulk with more strength and few extras, but nothing game breaking.Who cares about hulk?
Void-Sentry on the other hand? He totally annihilates Superman:Superman overpowered a pull which pulled a whole planet in source wall.- A weakened Sentry stalemated WW Hulk and had the upper hand, someone who strength and durability wise stands above Superman as judging by him overpowering rays, which would have sent the world out of its orbit and taking Galactus' attacks,
- a slightly less weakened Sentry stalemated the Collective for multiple issues, someone, who easily empowered and then defeated the planet buster Binary and during their fight Sentry and Collective destroyed a moon in space and guess what, no one got knocked out, LOL,Superman fought and overpowered Source empowered Infinity Man who fought with the ALE Scott Free destroyed the whole source wall. As for low showings, hellicarriers anybody? Or Namor twoshotting him in Avengers/Invaders? Human Torch overloading him? Hercules/Hulkling oneshotting him? Guess all these instances are him being weakened despite never being shown any indication of such. Ah, well.
- Sentry also defeated Blue Marvel, a guy who could have busted the moon with his punch by bullrushing him into the ground and overloading his durability,Superman oneshotted nearly killed Lobo who has destroyed planets with his farts.
- Sentry took on Photon, the empowered version of Genis-Vell, who was a threat to the entire universe after his power up and in that fight Sentry was busting planets, while still holding back,Superman took on Emperor Joker who actually destroyed the whole universe and punched through his body.
- Sentry overloaded the Absorbing Man with power, someone, who once was in Asgard and absorbed their magic there including Odin's and was more than a match for Thor and Hulk over and over again ...Superman powered the ****ing cosmic armor with Ultraman.
and Sentry impressed the Absorbing Man with a fraction of his power, saying that he never tasted power like that before ... when he cut loose, Absorbing Man was gone,Superman powered the miracle machine which warped the entire multiverse.
- a pissed off Sentry overpowered the Molecule Man, a guy who was affecting galaxies and timelines during his fights,A holding back superman broke soulfire darkseid who no sold Source/ALE entity who were the creator of DCU.
- Sentry also broke through Doctor Doom's shields, which were protecting him from high end cosmic entities including Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet,Superman broke through the force-field of Darkseid when he was taking the whole multiverse down with him with just one HV blast. Also doom's force-field has been broken by people like Thing.
- Sentry beat the crap out of the Void multiple times and we're talking about his dark side, which broke the Hulk in one move and rendered him helpless for multiple days ...Superman oneshotted Despero who in turn has knocked out both superman and captain marvel at once.
the Void, who overpowered Thor and everyone else on the battlefield with one attack ...Nothing major. Silver Surfer once nearly killed thor and avengers with a warning attack.
the Void, who was ripping gods apart left and right, beat up multiple teams of superheroes including people like Black Bolt and Doctor Strange - at the same time he was trying to bust through the combined force fields of Doctor Strange, Invisible Girl and Iron Man and he was gaining the upper hand until Sentry gained the control again...Ripping an enhanced Bizarro apart>>>>>>>>>Ripping Ares apart. The only one notable was strange and nothing else.
No, you tool - your boy Superman is not going to beat someone, who busts planet on a whim and stalemates one of the most powerful versions of the Hulk, while being in a weakened state - and that by either taking so much damage, that Hulk wasted all of his energy to put the Sentry down, or by taking care of the energy by himself by doing so much damage to the Hulk that the gamma energy was used to heal him - either way, it's a ridiculous feat, like so many others of his.No you clown, this is a superman who overpowers Big Bang level energies and kills universal abstracts. Sentry is going to wish Paul Jenkns never created him after the beating superman is going to give him.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha.
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
This is going to be my last response to you. I'm not doing this to prove YOU wrong, but to show everyone else, who takes the time to read through my posts how wrong YOU are and that they shouldn't listen to your opinion, because you're as biased as it gets towards the blue boyscout.
Originally posted by abhilegend
No sentry wasn't weakened because the writer made it abundantly clear he wasn't. You can do all the mental gymnastic you want to do, it wouldn't change anything.
Sentry is a character, who can have one weakness and that's his mind, which tends to play tricks on him, if he has a bad day:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101942/3189038-1234124.jpg
Before the WW Hulk fight he stayed for over 29 hours at home, unable to leave due to his agoraphobia, while the Hulk was wrecking chaos and threatening the lives of the heroes. Then when it really got serious Sentry had to intervene:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/101942/3189061-1.jpg
So Sentry was in the fight, while having mental problems and he started losing control over his powers and busting the city, while everyone else was saying that he might destroy everything:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179384-10.jpg
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Worth being mentioned:
The destruction the Sentry caused during that fight was not under control for 3 days after the fight. His fire was still burning.
In a What If Sentry and Hulk were attacked by the beam and released their energies together, which annihilated the planet and the radioactivity made it impossible for any kind of life later on.
So there we had a fight with CONTEXT and the Sentry dealing with his mental weakness, which makes him less powerful ... YOU KNOW, LIKE GREEN KRYPTONITE MAKES SUPERMAN LESS POWERFUL, SINCE IT'S HIS WEAKNESS!
This is what happened when a stable Sentry faced the Hulk (not World War Hulk, but Savage Hulk nontheless):
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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101942/3271659-6.jpg
He beat him in two panels. Can Superman do that? No, he can't.
Here is a different example of the Sentry struggeling with his bad days:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101942/3189329-1.jpg
Yet he still faced the Collective, who as I said it defeated Binary in one panel or something like that:
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During their fight they destroyed a moon (or a planet, or whatever that round planet was, before it exploded, because of their escaping energies).
Then where his mental state was not mentioned he fought Photon and judging by the fact that he was releasing his energy, while Photon was shutting it down - the escaping energies still were destroying planets, as we can see the planet below Captain America collapsing and the Sentry was even holding back:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179258-3.jpg
Then, when Photon teleported Captain America away and Sentry and him were alone, Sentry cut loose and you could see his energies escaping from the Microverse and being visible in the real universe:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179259-4.jpg
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As I said it, no mental weakness was mentioned during that last encounter and it's not like Sentry only had 2 moments, where his mental problems were mentioned. He had few more and it should be clear as day that a bad day can hinder Sentry's performance:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101942/3189060-2.jpg
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, context clown, context.
Damn, Mr. Internet-Tough-Guy ... Mr. Keyboard-Warrior is calling me a clown. You've hurt my feelings now, son.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not ignoring anything. The only thing ridiculous is you being able to read anything.
I speak three languages nearly perfectly. I'm not concerned about my ability to read.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Means shit. Its not the first time this has happened and it won't be the last where heralds like Thor have said something like that. If thor had used Godblast, that would've been all his might.
Once I knew a delusional weirdo, who said something in the lines of: "Excuses, excuses."
Originally posted by abhilegend
Which was nowhere said in the actual comic. I don't get butthurt over comic battles anyway and superman kills this pathetic piece of shit clone once and for all.
As I said it, Sentry is not a Superman clone. He is a Miracleman clone and I hardly doubt that you even know, who that is, even though I linked you a thread, where I explained it perfectly.
And in the end of the day, guess what ... Superman is a so called "pathetic piece of shit clone" as well.
He is based on the novel Gladiator and at the same time before Superman there was this one character called John Carter (Warlord of Mars) in year 188something I think, who landed on Mars, where he was stronger and faster than anyone else and able to leap great distances with barely any effort. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Get angry and tell us how sentry is awesome for the hundredth time. Thor killed sentry, if you've ANY evidence other than conjecture from sentry begging Thor to kill him present it now. If you don't present it, I would accept your concession.
Besides the fact that Sentry was begging the Avengers to kill him (the Avengers, not Thor ... Thor was just the first one to speak) and besides the fact that Thor was not able to harm him before and besides the fact that Brian Michael Bendis confirmed that the Sentry was only defeated, because he wanted to lose in the end and besides the fact that multiple characters in the very own universe said that the Sentry is more powerful than Thor and besides the fact that the Sentry was created to be a character more powerful than Thor and besides the fact that Thor said that he couldn't even beat Hulk, while Sentry did it in a weakened state and besides the fact that the Sentry never returned, even though he had the power to do so and besides the fact that everyone knows that Thor wouldn't have been able to beat the Sentry without his cooperation, you're ridiculous and don't deserve any kind of attention ...
... what else could I bring up?
Originally posted by abhilegend
I KNOW that its not your saddest, you're going to get even more sad as this goes on. First you told me you don't want to waste time with me and now this essay? What, you think I'm quan?
As I said it, this is my last response to you.
I think I did a great job in stating my opinion and trying to explain it as good as I can, while you are having tantrums like a little child, who got a potato for birthday so that the parents could make a funny Youtube video out of the tantrum.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I posted actual feats and you started throwing tantrums that this feat doesn't count and "show real feats". I insulted the character sentry, you are still cool with me. Its real cute how you still think I'm someone you thought two years ago. Real cute.
You didn't post feats at all. You posted something, where Superman goes through a transformation from a Super Saiyan (Superman), to a Super Saiyan 2 (Kingdom Come Superman) and then finally to a Super Saiyan 3 (Superman One Million) ... Amd I supposed to take that and you seriously and think about how that would play out in a fight? Get the hell off man.
PS: Raj.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz.
I think I wrote "lulz" once, when I was 14 years old, but then I realized how ridiculous I sound and immediately dropped it after.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, this is getting hilarious. Superman was going to kill a universal abstract with less than a minute of sundip.
Hilarious indeed.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nobody gives a shit about what you said.
My life has no meaning anymore.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Who cares about hulk?
Carver9 does and at this point I wouldn't be surprised if you had a discussion with him as well, where he posted great Hulk feats to support the character and you were having your tantrums and telling him how Hulk sucks and that Superman overpowered the Presence with his willpower alone.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman overpowered a pull which pulled a whole planet in source wall.
Hulk's feat is more impressive, because there we can work with actual numbers due to the gravity and so on.
Superman maybe did something, where he failed so many times in different instances. I love the one feat, that people post how Superman, Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman are pulling the Earth and everyone says like: "YEAH DUDE, WONDER WOMAN WAS PULLING 1/3 OF THE EARTH!" which is a nonsensical statement in itself, but they never post the following scans, where it's revealed that they actually failed in doing so and that Kyle helped them out.
Not the first time Superman failed in moving planets btw and moving planets is not even in the same dimension as moving a planet out of its orbit, when it comes to feats.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman fought and overpowered Source empowered Infinity Man who fought with the ALE Scott Free destroyed the whole source wall. As for low showings, hellicarriers anybody? Or Namor twoshotting him in Avengers/Invaders? Human Torch overloading him? Hercules/Hulkling oneshotting him? Guess all these instances are him being weakened despite never being shown any indication of such. Ah, well.
Sentry is the biggest jobber in comic book history. He jobbed like no one else before for the sake of the plot. Should be well known by now.
Does that mean that Superman will throw a Helicarrier at him and win that way? Well, a mental midget would think that way.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman oneshotted nearly killed Lobo who has destroyed planets with his farts.
Yeah, Lobo the character, who sometimes has Superman level strength and is sometimes a street leveler. Great argument, Raj, great argument.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman took on Emperor Joker who actually destroyed the whole universe and punched through his body.
I'm going to ignore that one, since you can't possibly believe that Superman facing Emperor Joker means something. As I told you, strength doesn't win you every fight.
Besides that the Emperor Joker storyline was so meh...They straight up made him capable of resurrecting the dead, something Mr. Mxy stated as being impossible, even for him.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman powered the ****ing cosmic armor with Ultraman. Superman powered the miracle machine which warped the entire multiverse.A holding back superman broke soulfire darkseid who no sold Source/ALE entity who were the creator of DCU.
Superman broke through the force-field of Darkseid when he was taking the whole multiverse down with him with just one HV blast. Also doom's force-field has been broken by people like Thing.
Superman oneshotted Despero who in turn has knocked out both superman and captain marvel at once. Nothing major. Silver Surfer once nearly killed thor and avengers with a warning attack. Ripping an enhanced Bizarro apart>>>>>>>>>Ripping Ares apart. The only one notable was strange and nothing else.
There is just too much BS in there. You're losing it right now.
Originally posted by abhilegend
No you clown, this is a superman who overpowers Big Bang level energies and kills universal abstracts. Sentry is going to wish Paul Jenkns never created him after the beating superman is going to give him.
What a sad way to finish off...
Let me show you how a gentleman does it: Have a nice day, Raj.
PS: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/101942/3271772-sentrylol.jpg
What I got from this thread is, that Superman is the first real Superhero who started the game and the Sentry is a flying Brick with some other powers and a ripoff of Superman (powerwise and from his design, like another real superman clone) and an ripoff from Miracleman or Marvelman who in turn is an Superman/Captain Marvel (the first real Superman ripoff) ripoff.
Jesus, so Sentry is an Superman ripoff + an Supermanclone-ripoff + an Supermanripoff-ripoff + an Supermanripoff-ripoff-ripoff which makes him something like the ultimate Supermanripoff^5...
Originally posted by EnzeruGoing incoherent with delusions I see. Good, good.
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
This is going to be my last response to you. I'm not doing this to prove YOU wrong, but to show everyone else, who takes the time to read through my posts how wrong YOU are and that they shouldn't listen to your opinion, because you're as biased as it gets towards the blue boyscout.Yep, not buying it. You will be back as soon as you see the reply here. As for you proving me wrong? Lulz, dream on clown.
Sentry is a character, who can have one weakness and that's his mind, which tends to play tricks on him, if he has a bad day:Say like Superman who has been explicitly said that his powers are based upon his mind.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101942/3189038-1234124.jpg
Yep, I would just chalk down any fight where superman isn't busting right through his enemies that he was weakened.
Before the WW Hulk fight he stayed for over 29 hours at home, unable to leave due to his agoraphobia, while the Hulk was wrecking chaos and threatening the lives of the heroes. Then when it really got serious Sentry had to intervene:Oh, he's right under a heavy jungle fire in power level.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/101942/3189061-1.jpgSo Sentry was in the fight, while having mental problems and he started losing control over his powers and busting the city, while everyone else was saying that he might destroy everything:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179384-10.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179385-11.jpgWorth being mentioned:
The destruction the Sentry caused during that fight was not under control for 3 days after the fight. His fire was still burning.
In a What If Sentry and Hulk were attacked by the beam and released their energies together, which annihilated the planet and the radioactivity made it impossible for any kind of life later on.Hahaha, in a What If Black Bolt disintegrated Sentry. The fact that you cite what if makes you look even more of a clown.
So there we had a fight with CONTEXT and the Sentry dealing with his mental weakness, which makes him less powerful ... YOU KNOW, LIKE GREEN KRYPTONITE MAKES SUPERMAN LESS POWERFUL, SINCE IT'S HIS WEAKNESS!Nope, he wasn't weakened there. He isn't Gladiator that he would be weakened when he says he's going to cut loose. There is NO mention of him being weakened there AT ALL.
This is what happened when a stable Sentry faced the Hulk (not World War Hulk, but Savage Hulk nontheless):Because his aura calms hulk down, not that he's suddenly so above hulk. Context clown, context. Anyway he's below Wrecker in power.
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He beat him in two panels. Can Superman do that? No, he can't.Of course superman can beat a calm hulk in less than two panels.
Here is a different example of the Sentry struggeling with his bad days:Again means shit.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101942/3189329-1.jpg
Yet he still faced the Collective, who as I said it defeated Binary in one panel or something like that:And Ms. Marvel absorbing a nuke oneshotted Sentry. How's that for power level?
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During their fight they destroyed a moon (or a planet, or whatever that round planet was, before it exploded, because of their escaping energies).Never happened. Not everything in space is a moon or a planet or whatever.
Then where his mental state was not mentioned he fought Photon and judging by the fact that he was releasing his energy, while Photon was shutting it down - the escaping energies still were destroying planets, as we can see the planet below Captain America collapsing and the Sentry was even holding back:The only thing that was destroyed was a mesa of rock. You are flat out lying now.
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Captain America was there and dodging the rocks falling.
Then, when Photon teleported Captain America away and Sentry and him were alone, Sentry cut loose and you could see his energies escaping from the Microverse and being visible in the real universe:Cool. Superman along with Captain Atom, Ray and Darkstar created a new big bang.
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Sentry is an ant in terms of energy projection.
As I said it, no mental weakness was mentioned during that last encounter and it's not like Sentry only had 2 moments, where his mental problems were mentioned. He had few more and it should be clear as day that a bad day can hinder Sentry's performance:You can do this all day long and it wouldn't mean shit. Nobody gives a shit about your theories.
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Damn, Mr. Internet-Tough-Guy ... Mr. Keyboard-Warrior is calling me a clown. You've hurt my feelings now, son.I'm calling you a clown because you're a clown. Nothing like being tough guy or some shit.
I speak three languages nearly perfectly. I'm not concerned about my ability to read.The fact that you supposedly speak three languages and still can't read is hilarious indeed.
Once I knew a delusional weirdo, who said something in the lines of: "Excuses, excuses."You saw yourself in the mirror?
As I said it, Sentry is not a Superman clone.Hahaha.
He is a Miracleman clone and I hardly doubt that you even know, who that is, even though I linked you a thread, where I explained it perfectly.The fact that you don't know that Miracleman himself is a clone of captain marvel who himself is a clone of superman speaks volumes. Its like saying a clone of hyperion isn't a clone of superman.
And in the end of the day, guess what ... Superman is a so called "pathetic piece of shit clone" as well.He isn't. He has taken attributes from several characters.
He is based on the novel Gladiator and at the same time before Superman there was this one character called John Carter (Warlord of Mars) in year 188something I think, who landed on Mars, where he was stronger and faster than anyone else and able to leap great distances with barely any effort. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?Superman was based on several characters like Doc Savage, Gladiator and most importantly Hercules of myth. He isn't a clone of one character.
Besides the fact that Sentry was begging the Avengers to kill him (the Avengers, not Thor ... Thor was just the first one to speak) and besides the fact that Thor was not able to harm him before and besides the fact that Brian Michael Bendis confirmed that the Sentry was only defeated, because he wanted to lose in the end and besides the fact that multiple characters in the very own universe said that the Sentry is more powerful than Thor and besides the fact that the Sentry was created to be a character more powerful than Thor and besides the fact that Thor said that he couldn't even beat Hulk, while Sentry did it in a weakened state and besides the fact that the Sentry never returned, even though he had the power to do so and besides the fact that everyone knows that Thor wouldn't have been able to beat the Sentry without his cooperation, you're ridiculous and don't deserve any kind of attention ...Your rant means little to me. Post a proof that Sentry weakened himself or GTFO. Writer interviews are not proof, your theories are not proof, sentry being supposedly more powerful than Thor or beating hulk isn't a proof and now you're going hysterical. Good.
... what else could I bring up?Your foolishness, what else.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeAnd Superman is a blatant ripoff of Hugo Danner, Aaron Munro, Hercules and Samson with Moses and Jesus themes tacked on well after-the-fact.
What I got from this thread is, that Superman is the first real Superhero who started the game and the Sentry is a flying Brick with some other powers and a ripoff of Superman (powerwise and from his design, like http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/56817/1064144-nuclearman45.jpg another real superman clone) and an ripoff from Miracleman or Marvelman who in turn is an Superman/Captain Marvel (the first real Superman ripoff) ripoff.Jesus, so Sentry is an Superman ripoff + an Supermanclone-ripoff + an Supermanripoff-ripoff + an Supermanripoff-ripoff-ripoff which makes him something like the ultimate Supermanripoff^5...
Let's not pretend Siegel and Shuster were being original.
Originally posted by EnzeruWe'll see.
As I said it, this is my last response to you.
I think I did a great job in stating my opinion and trying to explain it as good as I can, while you are having tantrums like a little child, who got a potato for birthday so that the parents could make a funny Youtube video out of the tantrum.Childs always think that they are doing great. You will learn too child.
You didn't post feats at all. You posted something, where Superman goes through a transformation from a Super Saiyan (Superman), to a Super Saiyan 2 (Kingdom Come Superman) and then finally to a Super Saiyan 3 (Superman One Million) ... Amd I supposed to take that and you seriously and think about how that would play out in a fight? Get the hell off man.Yes, he was taking over the reality warping of Dominus. You can't read where he said that Dominus' power is his now, did you?
PS: Raj.Hahaha.
I think I wrote "lulz" once, when I was 14 years old, but then I realized how ridiculous I sound and immediately dropped it after.You wrote it yesterday, I take it. Don't be shy.
Hilarious indeed.Your leaps in logic? Why yes.
My life has no meaning anymore.Heavens forbid! Who would give sentry blowjobs now?
Carver9 does and at this point I wouldn't be surprised if you had a discussion with him as well, where he posted great Hulk feats to support the character and you were having your tantrums and telling him how Hulk sucks and that Superman overpowered the Presence with his willpower alone.Carver has been beaten so many times that now he wouldn't even look at my post any more. Now you're being just petulant and whiny.
Hulk's feat is more impressive, because there we can work with actual numbers due to the gravity and so on.It was a mere hyperbole. There was no planet shunted out of orbit, here it was.
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Superman maybe did something, where he failed so many times in different instances. I love the one feat, that people post how Superman, Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman are pulling the Earth and everyone says like: "YEAH DUDE, WONDER WOMAN WAS PULLING 1/3 OF THE EARTH!" which is a nonsensical statement in itself, but they never post the following scans, where it's revealed that they actually failed in doing so and that Kyle helped them out.Superman was weakened and not your "sentry's mindset weakened", he was weakened due to being a skeleton for 3000 years and not yet absorbed enough solar power to be at full power.
Not the first time Superman failed in moving planets btw and moving planets is not even in the same dimension as moving a planet out of its orbit, when it comes to feats.Hahaha, superman moved Earth and Moon from one star system to another.
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Sentry is the biggest jobber in comic book history. He jobbed like no one else before for the sake of the plot. Should be well known by now.Nah, that's martian manhunter.
Does that mean that Superman will throw a Helicarrier at him and win that way?He could just punch him like namor did.
Well, a mental midget would think that way.Or he could HV him and overload him. You saying he's a jobber doesn't excuses the low showings.
Yeah, Lobo the character, who sometimes has Superman level strength and is sometimes a street leveler.Against superman he's always superman level.
Great argument, Raj, great argument.Your arguments are as clever as ever, discarding feats on non-nonsensical grounds.
I'm going to ignore that one, since you can't possibly believe that Superman facing Emperor Joker means something.He punched through his head while holding back. That's more than sentry has ever did.
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As I told you, strength doesn't win you every fight.Who said he punched Joker and won?
Besides that the Emperor Joker storyline was so meh...They straight up made him capable of resurrecting the dead, something Mr. Mxy stated as being impossible, even for him.And you once again show you can't read. Mxy said he can't resurrect dead because he's bound by rules. Joker wasn't.
There is just too much BS in there.I can post every feat here but your head might explode.
You're losing it right now.No, but you already have.
What a sad way to finish off...HAHAHAHA, here you are running away with your tail in between your legs and you call this a sad way to finish?
Let me show you how a gentleman does it: Have a nice day, Raj.Not a gentleman, a lady might go whimpering like it.
PS: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/101942/3271772-sentrylol.jpgThis is how you do it.
This has now gone out of hand. Also it is a strong sign of insecurity when people type hahaha in text. But more importantly it is a way to mask anger/rage. And the insults are very unnecessary. Enzeru walked away like the mature adult for he saw there was no reasoning with you ahbi. We should try to maintain a friendly environment. Because in retrospect we are here to talk about fictional characters in fictional worlds for fun. We are all self aware of this and should know where to draw the line.
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This has now gone out of hand. Also it is a strong sign of insecurity when people type hahaha in text. But more importantly it is a way to mask anger/rage. And the insults are very unnecessary. Enzeru walked away like the mature adult for he saw there was no reasoning with you ahbi. We should try to maintain a friendly environment. Because in retrospect we are here to talk about fictional characters in fictional worlds for fun. We are all self aware of this and should know where to draw the line.
Also he was throwing tantrums when anybody dared to question his theories about his beloved sentry as always, you don't know this kid like I do. So kindly shut up.
Originally posted by ODG
And Superman is a blatant ripoff of Hugo Danner, Aaron Munro, Hercules and Samson with Moses and Jesus themes tacked on well after-the-fact.Let's not pretend Siegel and Shuster were being original.
Indeed they were. They created the first Comic Superhero. Sure they got inspired by a lot of things, Jesus, Hercules, Samson and created a new comic era of Superheroes. Without Superman there woudn't be, most likely, any DC or Marvel Superheroes. He was the first comic Superhero, the original, who started everything, even though he was inspired by lore, myth and other media.
What's the differenc? Captain Mavel was a direct order to copy Superman, what the creator did and the reason why they lost at court. The other Superman clones are exactly that, direct or indirect clones of Superman.
Don't get me wrong, that is nothing bad. Copy from the best, instead of creating somthing horrible like Mattereaterlad...
Most Superman ripoffs or clones are cool. 😉
As Alex Luthor said "everything comes from Superman" - Fact. Not only in DC.
