Originally posted by the Darkone
DP destroyed solar system, as where Odin has destroyed galaxies, reignite suns and galaxies in battles. Odin caused shock waves through out the multiverse just for sh** and giggles. Seriously to this day SA Odin has better feats than most of the cosmic hierarchy and that's a fact.
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Lets add the fact Odin battled beings who can destroy Galaxies like Surtur.And Dark Phoenix destroying a star system is actually a representation that she's not at full power yet at the time.So Odin can still win this 🙂
It's funny how the Odin wankery here is rooted from the galaxies feat. When ever someone talks about or posts the feat then Odin automatically wins the forum fight (or it becomes spite).
Even using that feat as a basis of the exact power Odin will come into EVERY forum fight then one must know that it was a shared feat, Odin didn't destroy galaxies with a single blast but multiple blasts (by both) that lasted for the entire fight (a long time), and that there are different levels of destroy (shatter in two, shatter in many pieces, vaporize, etc.).
Originally posted by wolverinos
as for the so called discussion i stated a feat for dark phoenix.....Odin to top that
And who goes about claiming that destroying a galaxy is impressive in retrospect to Odin anyways? Odin goes about doing the very same sh1t in like every fight that he's fought.
Like I said, claiming that DP destroyed a galaxy(which is clearly a lie) and demanding what Odin has done to top that reeks of 12 levels of sheer retardation, trollery and/or ignorance of Odin's feats that are more or less common knowledge even among newbies on this forum.
You still haven't specified which one are you.
Narration is always prone to hyperbole, ESPECIALLY so in the case of asgårdians. In that Odin scan we can only see Odin destroy some features on a planetary surface, i.e. on the scale of a few miles. We can't see actual galaxies being destroyed, like the Beyonder wiped out a galaxy during Secret Wars.
Thus, the best way to judge power levels is through actual fights. Phoenix has always had the upper hand vs. Galactus, in their AU and 616 encounters, whereas Odin is pretty consistently established to be below him.
Conclusion: Dark Phoenix wins.
Some scans of an AU Phoenix destroying THE UNIVERSE (according to narration), and of the 616 Phoenix holding the galaxy (or the universe, according to narration) in her hands:
Originally posted by Igniz
👆Lets add the fact Odin battled beings who can destroy Galaxies like Surtur.And Dark Phoenix destroying a star system is actually a representation that she's not at full power yet at the time.So Odin can still win this 🙂
Not taking a thing away from this feat..
But you've got to love how all the collateral damage happens everywhere except the point of origin. 😂
Thor: "So we're at war with the multiverse, and you want to start a Skyfathers invitational slugfest?
Odin: Trust me, son. The multiverse won't even exist by the third round.
Originally posted by Magnon
Phoenix has always had the upper hand vs. Galactus, in their AU and
616 encounters, whereas Odin is pretty consistently established to be
below him.Conclusion: Dark Phoenix wins.
Originally posted by Magnon
Some scans of an AU Phoenix destroying THE UNIVERSE (according to narration),and of the 616 Phoenix holding the galaxy (or the universe, according to narration) in her hands:
The Second scan is reality-15104 Jean (WPotC). Neither the Phoenix
Force bio or 616 Jean Grey's bio recognize HCT as ever happening.
Also she's not holding an actual universe, it's rather Morrison symbolism,
its more of a visualization of reality-15104 (possible 616-future)
which she can peer into and see/exploit at-least individuals within time (WHR is a Nexus)
like how she manipulated Scott.
Originally posted by wolverinosWell, clearly you haven't just revealed yourself to be a bitter sock who's primary account has been banned by referring to my old username from years ago. Even though you supposedly joined this forum a few months ago.
whats the matter one dumb goat i hit a nerve? Lol.
Real smooth.
Originally posted by wolverinosThis isn't last word syndrome. It's a conversation. Typically, during a conversation, one person talks, and then the other person talks. Somehow, this concept is beyond you.
i am enjoying indeed your last word syndrome and laughing my ass over here at how hard you are trying to get back at me.
Originally posted by wolverinosWhy do you even try to bother pretending to discuss comics? You haven't read any. All you are, is some schmuck who got banned from these forums, created a sock account because you couldn't do without the attention, and are pretending to be somebody else. Seriously? As you sit there having accused other posters of being sad folks, reflect on your own current situation.
as for the so called discussion i stated a feat for dark phoenix and asked for something odin did to top that, not only because i do believe dark phoenix is more powerful but overall i wonder maybe there is something i missed about odin.
however insecure people like yourself interpret it in a whole other way, insacure people like yourself see it as some kind of call for internet battle just because you gather all your emotions deep inside and release it on the internet...sad ....just sad.
I fully expect that you'll sit there, pause for a moment, twitch suddenly, have a brain aneurysm, and then sob uncontrollably. Eventually, you'll wipe the tears from your keyboard and post a really retarded retort that makes no sense and causes you to sh1t yourself again. Because, well... if past is prologue and all that jazz...
Originally posted by TheGodKillerTrick question: he can be both.
Except you missed the part where said feat doesn't exist, as confirmed by other posters on this very thread.And who goes about claiming that destroying a galaxy is impressive in retrospect to Odin anyways? Odin goes about doing the very same sh1t in like every fight that he's fought.
Like I said, claiming that DP destroyed a galaxy(which is clearly a lie) and demanding what Odin has done to top that reeks of 12 levels of sheer retardation, trollery and/or ignorance of Odin's feats that are more or less common knowledge even among newbies on this forum.
You still haven't specified which one are you.
Originally posted by ODG
Well, clearly you haven't just revealed yourself to be a bitter sock who's primary account has been banned by referring to my old username from years ago. Even though you supposedly joined this forum a few months ago.Real smooth. This isn't last word syndrome. It's a conversation. Typically, during a conversation, one person talks, and then the other person talks. Somehow, this concept is beyond you. Why do you even try to bother pretending to discuss comics? You haven't read any. All you are, is some schmuck who got banned from these forums, created a sock account because you couldn't do without the attention, and are pretending to be somebody else. Seriously? As you sit there having accused other posters of being sad folks, reflect on your own current situation.
as i mentioned before i was reading posts here on KMC before i ever decided to open an account so no... and your name wasnt one dumb goat as i recall but i might be wrong.
actually it is last word syndrome, look at the scrolls you are typing in order to prove something to me.why do you care what i think about you? your personality is weak my friend with a lot of complexes.
a conversation suppose to have a meaning, if our so called conversation began from you trying to insult me and was dragged on by you trying to be the last one to reply this is no conversation, this is the last word syndrome you are having.
well.... sharlock holmes you are not, got wrong on all your strikes, i do enjoy comics and read them, the shmuck around here is the guy who interfered a discussion about feats and just began to troll out of nowhere which happens to be you.and thank god my life is great thank you very much for your concern.
now seriously grab a beer and chill... just chill
^ Really? You're still trying to pretend you aren't a sock?
Hilarity.
Let us know when you can figure out what a conversation between two people entails. Hint: two people talking and responding to each other.
Also, let us know when you find those scans of Dark Phoenix blowing up galaxies. Because not only are you a useless sock, trying to sustain a rather pointless charade, you also don't know sh1t about what you're talking about. Even when others take the time to provide you the scans. U mad?
Originally posted by ODG
^ Really? You're still trying to pretend you aren't a sock?Hilarity.
Let us know when you can figure out what a conversation between two people entails. Hint: two people talking and responding to each other.
Also, let us know when you find those scans of Dark Phoenix blowing up galaxies. Because not only are you a useless sock, trying to sustain a rather pointless charade, you also don't know sh1t about what you're talking about. Even when others take the time to provide you the scans. U mad?
if i am a sock you got to be a troll.
thats the technical definition of a conversation, however the more philosophical and mathematical aspect of a conversation state that there has to be a subject for the conversation.
the things happening here is a ping pong of words which effect nothing, therefor its nothing more than your attempt to satisfy your poor ego.
here is a hint: if you got inferiority complex to the point you feel you must prove everybody you wont back down and it works against you then simply dont start shit with people, cuz you will just find yourself in a situation similar to this.
and no just for the heck of it i wont stop, i will work on your syndrome every single day and you will reply back and forth and wish me to stop already because i want to teach you a lesson.
you will thank me 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Interesting, I'd like to see where/when did Phoenix ever defeat 616 Galactus?
Oh, I hope you weren't referring to Rachel defeating a Hungry Galactus? 🙂Actually the First scan is a "What If" .. so Non-Canon over here parts, therefore inadmissible.
(Jean Grey also dies there so the feat is useless)The Second scan is reality-15104 Jean (WPotC). Neither the Phoenix
Force bio or 616 Jean Grey's bio recognize HCT as ever happening.
Also she's not holding an actual universe, it's rather Morrison symbolism,
its more of a visualization of reality-15104 (possible 616-future)
which she can peer into and see/exploit at-least individuals within time (WHR is a Nexus)
like how she manipulated Scott.
AU = alternative universe. So you see, I did differentiate the 616 and AU feats in my post. However, the Phoenix force is supposed to be a unique force in all universes so the feats do carry some impact.
Also, I haven't seen the WPotC being retconned anywhere. As fas as I know, that *is* the actual 616-originated Jean.
Rachel owned a hungry Galactus, and she was also able to throw a well-fed and prepared Galactus and his herald Nova around like rag dolls.
We have also seen the Shi'ar, and others, claim (Dark) Phoenix to be a greater threat to the Universe than Galactus.
Originally posted by h1a8
It's funny how the Odin wankery here is rooted from the galaxies feat. When ever someone talks about or posts the feat then Odin automatically wins the forum fight (or it becomes spite).Even using that feat as a basis of the exact power Odin will come into EVERY forum fight then one must know that it was a shared feat, Odin didn't destroy galaxies with a single blast but multiple blasts (by both) that lasted for the entire fight (a long time), and that there are different levels of destroy (shatter in two, shatter in many pieces, vaporize, etc.).
Bottom line: It is how one destroys something, and not the fact that he destroyed something, that determines one's power output. Odin used many blasts along with help to destroy galaxies. Also, together, they destroyed galaxies on a very low level (not a high level such as vaporize).
Finally, many use that feat as a basis of the exact power level Odin will enter every forum battle. Even when he many times failed to kill or vaporize high heralds with his attacks (like Surfer). I guess I can use Superman's greater than 50 Earth weights of force feats as a basis to his strength in every forum fight.
Originally posted by MagnonAU = alternative universe. So you see, I did differentiate the 616 and AU feats in my post. However, the Phoenix force is supposed to be a unique force in all universes so the feats do carry some impact.
Originally posted by MagnonAlso, I haven't seen the WPotC being retconned anywhere. As fas as I know, that *is* the actual 616-originated Jean.
1) Telekinetically extracting Sublimes atoms from reality 15104. (with 7 pages of prep)
2) Telepathically accessing Scott in 616 via the White Hot Room (a nexus)
and mind raping his decision 150 years in the Past, so that reality 15104 never exists,
since it was Scott that created reality 15104 via a decision in Present 616.
Originally posted by MagnonRachel owned a hungry Galactus,
and she was also able to throw well-fed and prepared Galactus and his herald Nova around like rag dolls.
Throwing around a "well-fed and prepared Galactus?" ... Anyway,
Rachel and the Phoenix Force itself were nearly erased from existence by Galactus in their second encounter, in fact,
Galactus decided to allow the PF to live.
Originally posted by MagnonWe have also seen the Shi'ar, and others, claim (Dark) Phoenix
to be a greater threat to the Universe than Galactus.
Shiar also shattered the PF to pieces after forcibly reconstituting it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Throwing around a "well-fed and prepared Galactus?" ... Anyway,
Rachel and the Phoenix Force itself were nearly erased from existence by Galactus in their second encounter, in fact,
Galactus decided to allow the PF to live.
And the reason Galactus had to let PF live was that her death would have meant the death of the universe, all living beings in it... and therefore, also the death of Galactus (no food, no Galactus).
Here you can see how easily Rachel matched Galactus & Nova at the same time:
And here you can see Rachel surrendering because THE COST OF WINNING would have been too high (implying that she would have won if she wanted to).