Galen Marek and Darth Vader vs. Revan and Darth Bane

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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Bonus: Which Emperor? Anyways, i'm pretty sure team 2 would lose to either emperor, as Revan is the weak link imo.

Well..., setting is Death Star and Palpatine is overseeing the fight, so ... they fight the Emperor RotJ Sidious.

TBH I am not sure how each team fares against Sids.
Bearing in mind that TFU Marek was ultimately no match for him, I see no reason to think that adding Vader, who I put slightly below Marek, will make a difference.

With team 2 I put RoT Bane above Marek/Vader/Revan, and IMHO he has a decent shot by himself. But as of now, I’m giving Palpatine the win. Adding Revan might prove troublesome to Palpatine at first, but I’m confident he will be less of a nuisance to him than Marek was in TFU.

As to team 1 vs. team 2 fight, I give the nod to team 1 simply becacuse they are, arguably, eclipsing team 2 with their Force powers. Furthermore, I feel that neither Vader (maybe nor even Marek) are far below RoT Bane is close combat skills. In other words, for me Revan is a weak link here.

Team Two wins handily assuming its Novel Galen. :/
Galen is extremely overrated, his best feat is moving a Star Destroyer SLIGHTLY off course after like 3 minutes of screaming and agony trying.

^ Galen has many other feats to his name 😬

Originally posted by Stigma
Furthermore, I feel that neither Vader (maybe nor even Marek) are far below RoT Bane is close combat skills.

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Yeah orbalisk Bane could solo all 3 of the combatants tbh.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Yes, but given that Marek is a practitioner of Juyo and therefore "a high-end master of multiple forms," we can conclude that this is not the result of lackluster skill but the formidable talent of his enemies.

I just wanted to mention something about this. Isn't Revan skilled in all forms of lightsaber combat, per Karpyshyn? If so, that would include Juyo...

Revan is immensely underestimated because of lack of written information about his exploits. Accomplishments wise, he will smoke majority in the mythos. The only being who put him in his place is canonically "a godlike avatar of the dark side" who have dismantled whole Strike Teams of bad@sses without difficulty.

I think Revan is good enough to subdue Marek after a decent fight and then decide the fate of encounter between Vader and Bane.

Marek is just a "Revan inspired wannabe clone" with creative liberties on his side.

Also, lightsaber dueling is not just about impressive martial skills. A Force-user with great understanding of the Force can perceive enemy actions with great clarity and react with great precision and speed accordingly. This is why Revan is such a potent and effective duelist and have cutdown so many foes ranging from Mandalorians to Sith Lords to gigantic droids to other extremely martial opponents and you name it.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I just wanted to mention something about this. Isn't Revan skilled in all forms of lightsaber combat, per Karpyshyn? If so, that would include Juyo...

Do you have a quote? I'm not familiar with that one.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Yes, but given that Marek is a practitioner of Juyo and therefore "a high-end master of multiple forms," we can conclude that this is not the result of lackluster skill but the formidable talent of his enemies.

This is nit-picking, but that Marek is a mere practitioner of Juyo does not credit him with high-end mastery of multiple forms. I recall that you'll need to be a master of Juyo to be credited with such an accolade.

I agree that Revan has a good chance of beating Marek. However it would be a very close fight imo, not just a "decent fight".

where does it say Vitiate is a "godlike avatar of the dark side"?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I agree that Revan has a good chance of beating Marek. However it would be a very close fight imo, not just a "decent fight".

where does it say Vitiate is a "godlike avatar of the dark side"


In this book: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-The-Republic-Encyclopedia/dp/0756698391

Originally posted by Intrepid37
This is nit-picking, but that Marek is a mere practitioner of Juyo does not credit him with high-end mastery of multiple forms. I recall that you'll need to be a master of Juyo to be credited with such an accolade.

Pretty sure it's practitioner, but then I don't have my source onhand.

What sources describe Form VII other than Fight Saber?

The Jedi Path has a section on it. Its described as difficult to learn and use effectively.

Fight Saber notes that only ''high-end masters of multiple forms can achieve and control the ultimate discipline known as Form VII''.

It's clear to me that ''achieve and control'' refer to being a master of it, not merely a practitioner.

I disagree, achieving and controlling it merely refers to being able to use it.

nah