Create a character to defeat mine.

Juggernaut's invulnerability+Night Crawler's teleporting+Giant Man's Pym particles

Or

Dr. Doom+Flash's knowledge of the Speed Force+Multiple Man's duplication power.

Originally posted by Turkey Pie
Characteristics,

Strength of an engaged Hulk

Invulnerability

Speed a tad short of the Flash

Energy projection above Blackbolt

Flight

and a variety of other powers including the ability to induce temperatures of Absolutely zero.

I shall call my character Superman. No energy manipulators, reality warpers or telepaths and no one above herald level and no bfr.

You have to give what levels of invulnerability and energy projection (like Superman level). Also, is flight speed equal to his flash speed?

You forgot Mysterio as a reality warper ass he managed to find the Ultimate Universe

Plus you invalidated yourself by calling Supes p out as a reality warper

Originally posted by jitay
You forgot Mysterio as a reality warper ass he managed to find the Ultimate Universe

Plus you invalidated yourself by calling Supes p out as a reality warper

Kid you're about 12 and completely lost.

Originally posted by Turkey Pie
Depends on the Ultron and some are way above herald, like Annihilation Ultron. Female Ultron gets her shit pushed, she struggled with a guy who could barely lift a S.H.I.E.L.D. carrier.

Jan-tron was fighting Voidtry and was healing everything thrown at it. Iirc Ultron was going to Nuke the planet so they had to kill the AI...

I'd put all but Warlock Ultron in HH, he's like Despero lvl. Imho.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Jan-tron was fighting Voidtry and was healing everything thrown at it. Iirc Ultron was going to Nuke the planet so they had to kill the AI...

I'd put all but Warlock Ultron in HH, he's like Despero lvl. Imho.

I think any character who regularly could go through multiple heralds is above high herald. First time I saw Ultron, the Avengers called in all the reservists and his Encephlo beam still wrecked them. How many high heralds can punk Wonderman, Thor and Ironman like small children.

Ultron just doesn't hold back like a Thor, Supes, Surfer, Martian ect...

But if he is disqualified

Creel's body + Winter Soldier's mind

Originally posted by Turkey Pie
Kid you're about 12 and completely lost.

Higher

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Ultron just doesn't hold back like a Thor, Supes, Surfer, Martian ect...

But if he is disqualified

Creel's body + Winter Soldier's mind

Hmmm, Creel is hard for anyone to beat; however, I remember probably his greatest Absorbing feet when he was becoming a living Island and hulk made him break contact as he was doing it by simply lifting him up, the feedback broke his mind. I see Superman doing something similar. Same thing when he got f.ed up trying to join with the Turbines in that issue of Avengers, now Winter Soldiers tactical knowledge and strategy is Awesome, but that Feedback etc, against a guy who can strike from huge distances? I also stipped in the opening post, No Energy Absorbers I think which AM is.

Originally posted by jitay
Higher

nah, if a bit, not much.

You have "no energy manipulaters" and blackbolts energy manipulation on your character...

Originally posted by pym-ftw
You have "no energy manipulaters" and blackbolts energy manipulation on your character...

Fair enough then, I don't think Creel has ever beaten an enraged Hulk, I don't think his powerset could even with Winter Soldier at the Helm. If you add the other powers.... Like Freezing molecules and smashing him which has been done to Creel more than once....

Creel was going to beat Odin in Asgard and has Absorbed part of a Cosmic Cube

He is the epitome of cis holding him back imho

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Creel was going to beat Odin in Asgard and has Absorbed part of a Cosmic Cube

He is the epitome of cis holding him back imho

He is, but he has to have the right something around to absorb, I mean remember in Avengers when he absorbed Caps shield and still lost dismally.

When controlled by Greithoth he could access things he had absorbed in the past.

Granted that could be a power from Greithoth, but Creel is also a giant idiot.

Originally posted by Turkey Pie
nah, if a bit, not much.

Hah in not a little teen of that's what you're thinking

Originally posted by jitay
Hah in not a little teen of that's what you're thinking

You're in what? "of what?" WTF son!

Originally posted by pym-ftw
When controlled by Greithoth he could access things he had absorbed in the past.

Granted that could be a power from Greithoth, but Creel is also a giant idiot.

He certainly is, one of the biggest wasters out!

Originally posted by Turkey Pie
Characteristics,

Strength of an engaged Hulk

Invulnerability

Speed a tad short of the Flash

Energy projection above Blackbolt

Flight

and a variety of other powers including the ability to induce temperatures of Absolutely zero.

I shall call my character Superman. No energy manipulators, reality warpers or telepaths and no one above herald level and no bfr.

Abomination.

Originally posted by carver9
Abomination.

Come on dude, he loses to Wonderman.