Anakin is the most inconsistent character in the context of his power progression/projection/depiction in the mythos.
I have not been able to understand his exploits on Mortis till date; did The Father influenced/augmented him? Anakin's performance on Mortis alone is massively inconsistent with his performance in other parts of the galaxy.
Also, I refuse to believe that so-called Zonakin can overcome any other Force-user in direct confrontation. He was not able to dominate Dooku in a contest of Force powers at any point as an example. And Dooku is neither the greatest duelist and nor the strongest Force-user in the whole mythos.
Which the Son and Daughter also had access to. I don't see why people always act as if only Anakin gets an amp on Mortis.
If the argument is that Anakin gets "more of an amp" on a force nexus then, there's many other places Anakin can get all Uber including the Jedi temple itself.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Anakin is the most inconsistent character in the context of his power progression/projection/depiction in the mythos..
He consistently stalemates Count Dooku, making him easily the 3rd most powerful Jedi on a consistent basis.
His innate power however can make him potentially much stronger in "Zone/Complete Clarity" moments.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Anakin is the most inconsistent character in the context of his power progression/projection/depiction in the mythos.I have not been able to understand his exploits on Mortis till date; did The Father influenced/augmented him? Anakin's performance on Mortis alone is massively inconsistent with his performance in other parts of the galaxy.
Also, I refuse to believe that so-called Zonakin can overcome any other Force-user in direct confrontation. He was not able to dominate Dooku in a contest of Force powers at any point as an example. And Dooku is neither the greatest duelist and nor the strongest Force-user in the whole mythos.
I'd say there are more inconsistent characters. Luke being one very good example.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Anakin is the most inconsistent character in the context of his power progression/projection/depiction in the mythos.I have not been able to understand his exploits on Mortis till date; did The Father influenced/augmented him? Anakin's performance on Mortis alone is massively inconsistent with his performance in other parts of the galaxy.
Also, I refuse to believe that so-called Zonakin can overcome any other Force-user in direct confrontation. He was not able to dominate Dooku in a contest of Force powers at any point as an example. And Dooku is neither the greatest duelist and nor the strongest Force-user in the whole mythos.
Full-Potential Anakin is the strongest person in the Mythos.
Maul takes this I don't doubt but it is impossible to say how easily.
Has Tinn been in any other serious duels than against Sidious? Because it is impossible to judge him off that fight as even if he were better than Maul he would have gone done just as fast.
To be honest, I'm just assuming Maul is better because Tinn would be a far more significant character if he were that powerful.
Originally posted by OnenessSavage got beat in two moves by Maul, Obi-Wan fought them both at once and broke Savage's leg. He was somehow able to TK Dooku and Ventress, but thats his most notable feat. (Besides killing Adi Gallia)
Maul is a beast, I would put him above Obi-wan and Savage Opress - who each I think could take out Saesee Tiin - so Maul could win with more ease in mind.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Full-Potential Anakin is the strongest person in the Mythos.
In G-Canon, this is true. However, outside of G-canon, it is less clear. This argument presupposes several things:
1. All midi-chlorian counts of all characters were measured up to Anakin's and found lacking. (This is false. An overwhelming majority of SW characters in EU do not have definite midi-chlorian counts. Even Hestizo Trace got a nebulous "known for having a high count" instead of a direct number)
2. Anakin ever realized his potential. (He didn't, ever outside of momentary bursts or plot devices. Full-potential Anakin is not measurable and therefore not able to be compared to canon characters in the same way Dark Side Yoda is not measurable or comparable. We assume both would be exponentially stronger, but there's no real way to determine this definitively.)
3. Anakin was ever on the track to realizing his potential. This sounds entirely odd, but the truth is that not every Force user reaches their absolute peak before death or worse. Exar Kun, Revan, and Savage are examples of exceptional Force users who were cut down very young, and lacked the time, dedication, and wisdom that would have accompanied old age. If anything, Luke's potential is greater than Anakin's not because of some arbitrary power level number but because of his own temperament and ability to learn coupled with his longer lifespan and different role in the galaxy (mentor and defender versus wayward apprentice and later Sith enforcer).
If you had to claim an absolute strongest person based on raw potential (unaided), it should be Luke, not Anakin. Anakin's temperament, lack of formal studies, and lack of diverse education both before and after his maiming prevented him from ever realizing his potential. Luke meanwhile with less training went on to surpass him at an accelerated rate and lived long enough to end up being something of a Jedi paragon.
That being said, aided or augmented persons have demonstrated power and mastery above and beyond Anakin/Vader, so the point is really just speculation. Full Potential Anakin could be powerful enough to move suns with his mind, or barely stronger than Malgus or Sidious; either way, he's not gonna be in any of our fights.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Savage got beat in two moves by Maul, Obi-Wan fought them both at once and broke Savage's leg. He was somehow able to TK Dooku and Ventress, but thats his most notable feat. (Besides killing Adi Gallia)
Beg your pardon but I think you're downplaying Savage here.
1) Yes, Maul beat him with ease but he's Maul. No shame in losing to him.
2) Savage's leg only gave out after repeated kicks to his knee. Plus in that fight the brothers were hampered by a lack of room (as they had to be careful not to get in each other's way while Kenobi had no such problem), and IIRC weren't they trying to take Kenobi alive and so wouldn't be able to go all-out?
3) Savage Force-choking Dooku and Ventress shows how powerful he is. He had a lot of potential, he just never fully unlocked it.