Barsen'thor Respect Thread

Started by Mizukage Yoda4 pages

Originally posted by Nephthys
You're exaggerating his power. He is not that far above the Jedi Council.

But you forgot about the 'Now add him siphoning power from hundreds of Jedi Masters' part. Its understandable I guess, that would be easy to miss. Unless you have, you know, eyes. >:]

Not that far above the Council? Are you joking? Ventress who is on par with if not superior to most of the Council gets put down by a finger in Yoda: Dark Rendezvous. He is WAY above the Council.

"Her face went pale. Dooku lifted that one finger, and this time he tapped it in the air, as if pushing a needle into a pincushion. Ventress crumpled to her knees. Her voice came out clotted with pain. Dooku made another little patting motion, and Ventress slammed to the tile floor. "

He did what your precious Darth Nox did to Darth Thanaton with a FINGER.

Lmao, yet shockingly enough he couldn't do that in an actual fight with her.

Eh. :/

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lmao, yet shockingly enough he couldn't do that in an actual fight with her.

Neither could Nox at the end of their battle.

+The only time they fought 1v1 Dooku intentionally used sabers. The other time he effortlessly pwned her with lightning.

2v1s don't count, neither do 3v1s not that it matters as he still came out on top. Dooku humiliates people of Ventress' level regularly with the force, whether it be her, Kenobi, or hell even Sora Bulq. He is FAR above regular councilors. In the PT era if your name isn't Yoda, Mace, or Anakin you cannot compete with the Count. Period.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Given that his obvious intention and plan was to fight the duo, no, I don't think that.

His intention was to kill Obi-Wan, hence why he, y'know, tried to kill him after defeating him in lightsabers. If he could have defeated him so simply with TK I don't see why he didn't and then run him through on the spot. Hell, it would drastically accelerate Anakin's fall in all likelihood.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
I can easily draw a comparison from Anakin's unstable mind regarding sand people to his unstable mind fighting Obi-Wan.

Er, why? Anakin freaking hates them. He wouldn't be conflicted over it like he was with Kenobi.

Anyway, thats purely speculative.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
I had a big lol at this.

That's nice.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Where did I say the Count would trash Ventress and Savage together in a small room surprised by Savage's betrayal?

He wouldn't own them even if they were in an open field and Dooku was hopped up on caffeine.

You said he could trash Council level people. When I pointed out that he didn't do that in his fight with Ventress and Savage you backpedaled and claimed circumstances like a coward.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Agree, not accept. The latter would be right if your estimation was factual, the former if it was opinion, which it is in this case.

All arguments are merely opinions based upon interpretations of the evidence. I've looked at the evidence and concluded that logically being boosted by hundreds powerful Jedi Masters would be a significant boost, based on the fact that I possess a working brain. Vivicar states that this boost will soon make him more powerful than the mother****ing Sith Emperor. Its ridiculous to think its not large.

Whats your interpretation? What, that he was only draining .01% of their power? Yeah, I'm sure thats why it was such a strain that it was killing them. 🙄

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Neither could Nox at the end of their battle.

+The only time they fought 1v1 Dooku intentionally used sabers. The other time he effortlessly pwned her with lightning.

2v1s don't count, neither do 3v1s not that it matters as he still came out on top. Dooku humiliates people of Ventress' level regularly with the force, whether it be her, Kenobi, or hell even Sora Bulq. He is FAR above regular councilors. In the PT era if your name isn't Yoda, Mace, or Anakin you cannot compete with the Count. Period.

Maybe because unlike Ventress, Thanaton had the opportunity to actually fight back and resist it. 😉

Not really. In the fight following Savage going berserk he didn't insta-pwn her. They dueled for a bit. Plus she has trumped him a few times with TK, smacking him down in the Nightsister fight and pulling his lightsaber away when he tried to recall it and redirecting it into a pipe in their Savage fight.

2 on 1s don't count? Lol, since when? If its so easy for him to pwn his opponents then it doesn't matter if theres someone else there, he should be capable of owning them regardless and then turn to their ally. Particularly since Opress spent the majority of the fight on the floor from lightning and he spends good portions of the fight taking them on 1 on 1. Quit cherry-picking.

Originally posted by Nephthys
His intention was to kill Obi-Wan, hence why he, y'know, tried to kill him after defeating him in lightsabers. If he could have defeated him so simply with TK I don't see why he didn't and then run him through on the spot. Hell, it would drastically accelerate Anakin's fall in all likelihood.

His intention was to display superior mastery and toy with him, not kill Obi-Wan the minut he stepped inside the hangar.

Labyrinth of Evil
Once Master and Padawan, Kenobi and Skywalker had become the scourge of Dooku's existence. On Geonosis he had deliberately allowed them to pursue him - - just as Sidious had instructed him to do. Also as instructed, Dooku had made Kenobi aware of the existence of Darth Sidious, as a means of confusing the Jedi Order by telling them the truth. In the sloop's docking bay he had demonstrated his mastery to Kenobi and Skywalker - - although Skywalker hadn't been as easily defeated the second time they had dueled.
Labyrinth of Evil
"Hold Kenobi and Skywalker, Lord Tyranus. Entertain them. Play to their weakness. Demonstrate your mastery, as you have on previous occasions."
Attack of the Clones
Dooku went into a wild flurry then, the likes of which he had not shown against Obi-Wan or Anakin, raining blows at the diminutive Master.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Er, why? Anakin freaking hates them. He wouldn't be conflicted over it like he was with Kenobi.

Anyway, thats purely speculative.


You do... remember... that they took his mother and tortured her, right?

Originally posted by Nephthys
That's nice.

I am nice.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He wouldn't own them even if they were in an open field and Dooku was hopped up on caffeine.

Lol'd again.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You said he could trash Council level people. When I pointed out that he didn't do that in his fight with Ventress and Savage you backpedaled and claimed circumstances like a coward.

Dooku's ability to trash Council level fighters is partly thanks to his vast superior telekinetic power (as seen he can ragdoll almost all of them; demonstrated against Kenobi and Ventress multiple times): Rage enhanced Opress? His power is above all of the Council members, thus not easy to telekinetically manhandle.

Originally posted by Nephthys
All arguments are merely opinions based upon interpretations of the evidence. I've looked at the evidence and concluded that logically being boosted by hundreds powerful Jedi Masters would be a significant boost, based on the fact that I possess a working brain. Vivicar states that this boost will soon make him more powerful than the mother****ing Sith Emperor. Its ridiculous to think its not large.

Whats your interpretation? What, that he was only draining .01% of their power? Yeah, I'm sure thats why it was such a strain that it was killing them. 🙄

Originally posted by Me
No one said he wouldn't be boosted, and he might very well be above Dooku thanks to the boost... but you've given no absolute proof to make me think so.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
His intention was to display superior mastery and toy with him, not kill Obi-Wan the minut he stepped inside the hangar.

He could easily have toyed with him and demonstrated his superior mastery through TK. If that was his intention, allowing Kenobi to casually block his lightning attacks doesn't really make much sense. 😉

Originally posted by Intrepid37
You do... remember... that they took his mother and tortured her, right?

Of course. Therefore I don't see why he wouldn't attack in full fury like he did after she died.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Dooku's ability to trash Council level fighters is partly thanks to his vast superior telekinetic power (as seen he can ragdoll almost all of them; demonstrated against Kenobi and Ventress multiple times): Rage enhanced Opress? His power is above all of the Council members, thus not easy to telekinetically manhandle.

Whom he can manhandle with lightning. 😬

Originally posted by Nephthys
He could easily have toyed with him and demonstrated his superior mastery through TK. If that was his intention, allowing Kenobi to casually block his lightning attacks doesn't really make much sense. 😉

Dooku is a first and foremost a duelist, not a Force practitioner. Point out to me when Dooku has used telekinesis right at the start of his fights. Against Ventress in OCW? Dueled her first, disarmed her telekinetically later. Ventress in TCW? Dueled her first, disarmed her telekinetically later. What about Grievous? To my knowledge, Dooku has never attacked Grievous telekinetically, only dueled him. List goes on. Dooku tried to show superior mastery with lightning, which failed. He then tried to do it in a lightsaber duel, as is his preference, in which he prevailed.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Of course. Therefore I don't see why he wouldn't attack in full fury like he did after she died.

Because that ''full fury'' is emotional and restricts his skill and power, ala against Kenobi.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Whom he can manhandle with lightning. 😬

Which only prolonged the fight.

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