Potter Magic vs. Lotr Magic

Started by quanchi1124 pages

Potter Magic vs. Lotr Magic

Which is more powerful and which would you personally rather wield.

This needs moved.

Reported to move.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Reported to move.
Pm imp. He will move it.

Moved.

Exalt me, my minions.

ALL HAIL!

Also, depends on the user of LotR magic. Pretty sure unleashed Gandalf or a First Age elf could flatten most users in the Potter-verse.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
ALL HAIL!

Also, depends on the user of LotR magic. Pretty sure unleashed Gandalf or a First Age elf could flatten most users in the Potter-verse.

Movies vs. movies only. Sauron counts here as well.

Feel free to weigh in, Middle Earther.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Pm imp. He will move it.

Reporting puts some earnestness to it. PMing makes a bit more sense, though. I'll remember that for next time.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Reporting puts some earnestness to it. PMing makes a bit more sense, though. I'll remember that for next time.
Everything I say always makes perfect sense.

Now weigh in here.

I disagree.

Umm...well, by lore I think LotR magic is probably more powerful. That said, I'd probably like to wield Potter magic because of its versatility.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
I disagree.

Umm...well, by lore I think LotR magic is probably more powerful. That said, I'd probably like to wield Potter magic because of its versatility.

Based on what lore in the movie ? Try to be more specific. I know you worship hyperbole but let's debate objectively if you can.

It's hard to qualify exactly how they could defend against each other really. Movie Gandalf erects a shield against the Balrog, but could it block something from the Potter-verse? I don't know enough to say, having not watched the last two HP films.

However, remembering the duel between Dumbledore and Voldemort, that was some pretty impressive and quick magic use, so I would have to give it to a higher level HP magic user in a straight up duel.

I like to think I've been doing a good job at objectivity in our debates. 🙂

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
It's hard to qualify exactly how they could defend against each other really. Movie Gandalf erects a shield against the Balrog, but could it block something from the Potter-verse? I don't know enough to say, having not watched the last two HP films.

However, remembering the duel between Dumbledore and Voldemort, that was some pretty impressive and quick magic use, so I would have to give it to a higher level HP magic user in a straight up duel.

This isn't about how the two interact its about which is more powerful and which do you prefer.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
I like to think I've been doing a good job at objectivity in our debates. 🙂
Objectively speaking you are wrong.

Now, how can you be objective in this context of subjectivity?

Originally posted by quanchi112
This isn't about how the two interact its about which is more powerful and which do you prefer.

I think I made that quite clear, actually.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
It's hard to qualify exactly how they could defend against each other really. Movie Gandalf erects a shield against the Balrog, but could it block something from the Potter-verse? I don't know enough to say, having not watched the last two HP films.

In this part, I noted that I am missing lore from the final two HP films, so my 'opinion' is ultimately uninformed, and I am only weighing in with the caveat of "based on what I have seen".

Second, I've noted that a direct defense comparison is difficult if not impossible; in the Potter films we see mages defend using wands. There's no such parallel in LotR; Gandalf's shield is about it. LotR is a low-magic fantasy setting, where use is epic and rare and typically unexplained. Lore-wise, magic is an innate part of most races except for hobbits and humans, and it's kept pretty nebulous as to how a magic duel would go. In the Silmarillion, which is not movie canon at this point, duels between First Age elves and servants of darkness are typically song duels.

However, remembering the duel between Dumbledore and Voldemort, that was some pretty impressive and quick magic use, so I would have to give it to a higher level HP magic user in a straight up duel.

In this point I indicated that because the higher end HP-verse duels emphasize speed and still have impressive showings, it seems logical to conclude that they would win in a typical, quick-draw duel. This is correlated with the above caveat.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Now, how can you be objective in this context of subjectivity?
Base it on objective feats, Gwildor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Base it on objective feats, Gwildor.

... says the guy with a Voldemort signature.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
... says the guy with a Voldemort signature.
And it looks friggin amazing. Keep your envy in your pants.