Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
That's exactly what I did when I posted the narrative of Doom giving Attuma Namor's powers.
That's not proof. That's a statement with no backing. I can make any claim I want. If I don't have facts that back up the statement, the statement is unproven. Basic debating principle.
Originally posted by -K-M-
No she's an alien that adapted to survive in the water. Huge difference. Regardless aquaman has affected humans, gods, Martians, birds, etcNever said nanor doesn't have high level psi defence. I said attuma doesn't. Prove to me attuma has the same level of Namor. Namor said he could resist his power as he was half human. That's different.
No, Namor did NOT say that. Prove to me you are able and willing to read scans provided and accurately relay what they say.
Originally posted by -K-M-
That's not proof. That's a statement with no backing. I can make any claim I want. If I don't have facts that back up the statement, the statement is unproven. Basic debating principle.
It's a synopsis on what occurred in the cited issue of Dark Reign, Made Men, 2009. Are you saying that it didn't happen?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
It's a synopsis on what occurred in the cited issue of Dark Reign, Made Men, 2009. Are you saying that it didn't happen?
*facepalm* do you not get what a unproven statement is? Clearly not. Anyone can give lip service, provide proof attuma gained even psi-resistance. If you can't do that simple thing don't even bother replying.
Originally posted by -K-M-
yeah you're trolling. He said and I quote "glad I am, then that I am only half Atlantean. Even so, my head pounds...."
I'm not trolling, I am presenting a concept you have yet to full comprehend.
Namor is more than the sum of his parts. Namor isn't simply a human Atlantean hyrid, he is a human Atlantean mutate. This account for great strength that is far above any normal Atlantean. If he was simply the sum of his parts, he should actually be weaker than the average Atlantean because humans are significantly weaker than Atlanteans. This is not the case. His foot wings and his TP resistence are also due to him being mutant as neither humans or Atlanteans have these features.
If you can grasp the the concept that Namor's TP is derived from his mutation, then you can understand his statement in a different context. If he was full Atlantean, he would be KOed because he would not be a mutant with TP resistence. You are making the incorrect assumption that Aquaman's psi blast would not have affected non Atlanteans (including humans) around him based on Namor's statement. As you pointed out, the psi blast affected Marrina, which you seem to have a problem with. The important thing with her is that she is not an Atlantean but was still KOed. The ONLY guy who was completely unaffected was Plasticman who is completed unaffected by psi. This entire scene is a reflection of Namor's TP resistance due to being a mutant.
So yes, twisting Namor's statement in the manner you did caused you to misinterpret it. That's why I pointed out what you said was not his quote.
Originally posted by -K-M-
*facepalm* do you not get what a unproven statement is? Clearly not. Anyone can give lip service, provide proof attuma gained even psi-resistance. If you can't do that simple thing don't even bother replying.
I'm not giving lip service, at the same time, I'm not under trial by you. If you don't want to believe it occured, then carry on. Chest beating is a behavior that is beneath me.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I'm not giving lip service, at the same time, I'm not under trial by you. If you don't want to believe it occured, then carry on. Chest beating is a behavior that is beneath me.
So still no proof. Debating is providing proof. You failed to do that. Bwahaha yeah that's what I'm doing. You going to claim I said something I didn't again now?
Originally posted by -Pr-
Namor's feats don't transplant to Attuma. I thought we had covered this.
According to Dr. Doom, his abilities do "transplant." What would be the difference in this case?
Furthermore, no one can say that this new Attuma with the powers of Namor could not or would not resist Aquaman's psi. All you or I can do is make and educated guess.
Originally posted by -K-M-
I'm fully aware he is a mutate. Something attuma isn't. That long winded speech proved nothing.And again from namors own words said he was glad he was only half Atlantean. Something you said he never said. Lulz.
I never said Attuma was a mutate, I said Doom gave him the same powers as Namor. You want to wish it away.
I said Namor never said what YOU said, so please stop the lying. I provided the scan, remember? I know exact what he said and what you said and they are different. Nice try.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Okay, it displayed just fine, which makes me wonder what you are not seeing. Read the 4th panel.
Where Namor talks about how he's only half-Atlantean?
I thought you said something about Aquaman fine-tuning his attack?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
According to Doom, his abilities do. What would be the difference in this case?
"Abilities" is a very vague term.
On this board when we talk about comics, statements by characters are not considered proof in and of themselves. Feats come first, whether they're combat feats, lifting feats or whatever. How many times have we seen a villain proclaim "My construct is as strong as you, Superman" only to have the thing get smashed to bits?
And even if we were to assume that Attuma was the equal of Namor, which Namor would that be? The one that knocked Hulk the **** out? Or the one that got absolutely ruined by The Thing? Do we assume it's the "average" that we subscribe to on this board, even though the writer would have assumed no such thing?
There are just too many variables.
I honestly don't know if Attuma would win. As much Namor as I've read, it was always guest starring in books and the like, so Attuma is kind of out of my range as far as expertise goes. Did we see him use his new abilities against Namor?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
That's not true. It's a fact that Namor made no statement as to how he resisted the psi attack. The only thing he said was that he was glad he was not an Atlantean.
Read what aquaman said just before. The scene was stating his human heritage saved him. That's fact or why would he even make that comment and be glad he is only half Atlantean?