Originally posted by Supra
I been to heaven just as the man from 90 minutes from heaven and I saw what he saw. Heaven is God, God is Heaven, God is all God is God is God
How do you know what you saw wasn't influenced by Christian teachings and traditions prior to your incident? We've had people on these very forums who had NDE and still admitted that the experience was subjective and not conclusive of anything.
They have elicited out of body experiences with electric shock treatment, fooling the brain into thinking it was outside of the body briefly. Hallucinations are in turn documented and repeated human experiences over time, being projections of the mind, typically with subconscious undertones.
Heaven is real people.
I invite all of you reading this post to join me in Heaven.
This place is so wonderful, so amazing, so spectacularly supernatural--you don't want to miss it!
But more important than Heaven itself is the God Who created it.
Truly being with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is Heaven.
Eye has not seen nor ear heard, nor has entered into the heart of man the things that God has prepared for those who love Him.
🙂
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Heaven is real people.I invite all of you reading this post to join me in Heaven.
This place is so wonderful, so amazing, so spectacularly supernatural--you don't want to miss it!
But more important than Heaven itself is the God Who created it.
Truly being with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is Heaven.
Eye has not seen nor ear heard, nor has entered into the heart of man the things that God has prepared for those who love Him.
🙂
Really? Are we starting over?
There is no original sin.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Heaven is real people.I invite all of you reading this post to join me in Heaven.
This place is so wonderful, so amazing, so spectacularly supernatural--you don't want to miss it!
But more important than Heaven itself is the God Who created it.
Truly being with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is Heaven.
Eye has not seen nor ear heard, nor has entered into the heart of man the things that God has prepared for those who love Him.
🙂
Is this where I drink the kool-aid and take a nap?
Originally posted by SupraLucifer was an angel; the shining one, the morning star. You're thinkng of Satan. Or Beelzebub. Or Mephisto.
Lord Lucien isn't that a co-name of the Lord of Demons Lucifer?
'Lucien' is the French version of 'Lucius', a name in Latin derived from "light" or "to shine". Like with Heaven's Light. Like what 'ol Lucifer used to shine with til he got all prideful. Fortunately for me, I have no pride.
In short, no. It's not a co-name. Never was, never will be. It is the name of myself once I seize a British peerage, however. It's also the name of the bad guy from Fable II. I like the sound of the 'Lord' part so much I just had to add it.
Originally posted by Supra
Lucifer is Satan and thought he was God so a war raged in heaven and he was cast out by Michael the Archangel and he was renamed Satan..
[list]LUCIFER
GENDER: Masculine
USAGE: Judeo-Christian Legend
PRONOUNCED: LOO-sə-fər (English) [key]
Meaning & History
Means "bringing light", derived from Latin lux "light" and ferre "to bring". In Latin this name originally referred to the morning star, Venus, but later became associated with the chief angel who rebelled against God's rule in heaven (see Isaiah 14:12). Even later it became associated with Satan himself.[/list]
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
[list]LUCIFERGENDER: Masculine
[/list]
USAGE: Judeo-Christian Legend
PRONOUNCED: LOO-sə-fər (English) [key]
Meaning & History
Means "bringing light", derived from Latin lux "light" and ferre "to bring". In Latin this name originally referred to the morning star, Venus, but later became associated with the chief angel who rebelled against God's rule in heaven (see Isaiah 14:12). Even later it became associated with Satan himself.
Ok so who did Michael throw out of heaven?
Lucifer started out in the Hebrew Bible as just a (lower case) word for Venus--then called the "morning" or "dawn" star. "Morning star" was used to describe a Babylonian king who was laid low (in metaphor he once shone brightly as the morning star--lucifer in Latin--but was brought to his knees).
Satan started out in the Hebrew Bible as well, but as a member of the Divine Council. He did Yahweh's bidding in tempting mortals away from Him, e.g. the story of Job. Here he was called the adversary, but he wasn't evil (he was an agent of God). In Christianity, his adversarial nature eventually caused him to be developed in to the fallen angel we all know about, and sometime in the 4th-5th century, started being compared with the "fallen star" lucifer metaphor. Hence the upper case: Lucifer. The two have been largely synonymous ever since, but their origins are very different indeed.