Originally posted by FreshestSliceExcept in all our arguments, you've never been able to counter a single argument of mine. If you're smarter and have better arguments, prove it instead of pointless flaming and insults.
You're kind of an idiot, tbh.
Prove why I'm an idiot before calling me an idiot and I'd take you and SupremeSkillz more seriously.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceIt was a joke .-.
Lulz. I like how you think you're in any position to judge anyone's debating, especially SKILLZ, after saying Lightning is the same as a wormhole. Revanchiste is a better debater, and he can't even speak English.
Why would I post scans of a Force Storm (clearly a wormhole), when I earlier said that Force Storms and Force Lightning are the same thing.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceExcept I'm not the one who makes Ludicrous claims putting certain SW Characters over others and fabricates information just to stay relevant to certain arguments, then when people call you out on your obvious bullshit, you shut up for the rest of the day, at least Skillz has integrity in his arguments and doesn't come up with completely unprecendented and unfounded claims to win an argument.
Because you're an idiot?U use wurdz guud, tbh. Plenty of people here do, but as you were called out, you became relevant.
Next time, put up or shut up.
Well, Palpatine in the Darth Plaguies novel absorbed energy/was the epicenter of a tremor that "burrowed into the core of the world (Coruscant) and shook the stars" Now the shaking the stars part is obviously hyperbole, but if we limit to it just shaking Coruscant it actually fits with the level of power he later demonstrates in DE. He is capable of opening Force Storms and controlling them, the Storms are capable of ripping apart the surface of worlds and killing them. Palpatine is also stronger than Plaguies, who by simply visiting Naboo threw the whole planet in a planet-wide winter, and his master made Planetary Dark side nexuses that were so potent with the Dark-side Palpatine compared it to Korriban and other Sith worlds. He himself made a Dark Side nexus which is Byss in the span of a few decades. Other DS nexuses require entire legions of Sith to do something like that and the process usually takes many centuries.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Except I'm not the one who makes Ludicrous claims putting certain SW Characters over others and fabricates information just to stay relevant to certain arguments, then when people call you out on your obvious bullshit, you shut up for the rest of the day, at least Skillz has integrity in his arguments and doesn't come up with completely unprecendented and unfounded claims to win an argument.Next time, put up or shut up.
Originally posted by The Merchant
Well, Palpatine in the Darth Plaguies novel absorbed energy/was the epicenter of a tremor that "burrowed into the core of the world (Coruscant) and shook the stars" Now the shaking the stars part is obviously hyperbole, but if we limit to it just shaking Coruscant it actually fits with the level of power he later demonstrates in DE. He is capable of opening Force Storms and controlling them, the Storms are capable of ripping apart the surface of worlds and killing them. Palpatine is also stronger than Plaguies, who by simply visiting Naboo threw the whole planet in a planet-wide winter, and his master made Planetary Dark side nexuses that were so potent with the Dark-side Palpatine compared it to Korriban and other Sith worlds. He himself made a Dark Side nexus which is Byss in the span of a few decades. Other DS nexuses require entire legions of Sith to do something like that and the process usually takes many centuries.
Darth Plagueis didn't alter the climatic conditions of Naboo on planetary-scale. It was a regional (one-time) event.
Palpatine was able to conjure Force Storm (Wormhole) power after years of honing his talents in the Dark Side and siphoning energy from the populace of Byss to fuel his raw power on consistent basis.
'Sprung from death, it unleashed itself in a powerful wave, at once burrowing deep into the world’s core and radiating through its saccharine atmosphere to shake the stars themselves. At the quake’s epicenter stood Sidious, one elegant hand vised on the burnished sill of an expansive translucency, a vessel filled suddenly to bursting, the Force so strong within him that he feared he might disappear into it, never to return. But the moment didn’t constitute an ending so much as a true beginning, long overdue; it was less a transformation than an intensification—a gravitic shift.
A welter of voices, near and far, present and from eons past, drowned his thoughts. Raised in praise, the voices proclaimed his reign and cheered the inauguration of a new order. Yellow eyes lifted to the night sky, he saw the trembling stars flare, and in the depth of his being he felt the power of the dark side anoint him."
Maybe I'm not interpreting it correctly, but it does say that Palpatines was the epicenter and his power increased when the dark side anointed him.
It was implied he did, actually. He arrived and all of a sudden Naboo entered the coldest climate change in its history, freezing even the lower parts of the oceans.
I know. He basically did a slower version of the Nathema ritual.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Palpatine didn't absorb that energy, it dissipated on its own. I perceive it as an element of disturbance or ripple effect in the Force.Darth Plagueis didn't alter the climatic conditions of Naboo on planetary-scale. It was a regional (one-time) event.
Palpatine was able to conjure Force Storm (Wormhole) power after years of honing his talents in the Dark Side and siphoning energy from the populace of Byss to fuel his raw power on consistent basis.
And you forgot to mention how much it took him and to his Dark Side Adepts to that on Byss.
Originally posted by The Merchant
Wel He is capable of opening Force Storms and controlling them, the Storms are capable of ripping apart the surface of worlds and killing them. Palpatine is also stronger than Plaguies, who by simply visiting Naboo threw the whole planet in a planet-wide winter, and his master made Planetary Dark side nexuses that were so potent with the Dark-side Palpatine compared it to Korriban and other Sith worlds. He himself made a Dark Side nexus which is Byss in the span of a few decades. Other DS nexuses require entire legions of Sith to do something like that and the process usually takes many centuries.
Once again, a wormhole was not the product of strength in the Force, but deep concentration in the dark side, playing with the dark side energies around you.
And he never had control over them, those were just his boasts. Also in his Compendium of the Dark Side, he states that Anger and Will combined at perfection, shall open a volatile burst in the fabric of space and time.
If you mean Byss, then Sidious with his Dark Side Adepts did that mutually. BTW, I heard that Rakata are the cause of Byss's corruption, I think it is retconned.
Well, you do realize that Palpatine also had his dark side tech and experiments on Byss, shaping the environment.
For example, Vitiate turned Dromund Kaas into a dark side nexus rivaling or surpassing Sidious's Byss, and all of that thanks to his presence, the temples and experiments.
Whatever Sidious did with Naboo's ocean doesn't even compare to Vitiate's ritual.