Originally posted by Oneness
Sidious' may as have been above Vitiate's. There's zero evidence to the contrary.
But it isn't.
Originally posted by Oneness
Vitiate's hasn't shown to be capable of doing that, yet it is understood that it is a great deal stronger.
Indeed, its said to be infinitely more powerful than hers.
Originally posted by Oneness
But can she kill hundreds of opponents from all directions within a 600 meter radius with standard Force lightning?
No. But neither can Sidious.
Originally posted by Nephthys
But it isn't.
And there is zero evidence to back that claim.
No. But neither can Sidious.
There are ToR sequences like busting through blast doors, and there's the Empire at War: Forces of Corruption Victory sequences where Sidious kills the Ewoks. It is a part of the game.
Originally posted by Oneness
Wookieepedia says the novels are g canon - which is more than I can say for any TOR cinematic seen in game.
No, that's incorrect. It says elements within the novels that come directly from GL are G-canon and anything else is C-canon. In the event two G-canon depictions clash, the newer one is considered more valid per LFL. Trust me, I wish that wasn't always the case. Han will always shoot first otherwise.
Compare the release dates too - the novelization came out April 2005, while the movie came out in May. The movie is newer, even if you insist that the novel is absolutely 100% G-canon. Zonakin never appears.
Your anti-TOR crusade is something else entirely.
A different way something plays in the novelizations is still legally considered as canon material, that is probably because these differences don't affect the moral of the story.
No again, this is blatantly contradicted by LFL. Read the entire page, don't just skim it to prove your bias. You were also wrong about the release date.
The capabilities of Jedi in ToR are legitimately inconsistent with the abilities of the Jedi in the films.
So is TFU, post-RotJ EU, CW cartoon and series, KotOR, TotJ, GAotS, and anything surrounding Bane and the Battle of Ruusan. In fact, the OT is inconsistent with the PT due to changes in film technology and director vision, as well as a new fight choreographer.
Consistency isn't a given. It is up to the fans to attempt to recouncile EU with movies. If you can't or won't do that, your next best option is to go to the movies only forums with other people who don't care or refuse to deal with EU issues.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
But could you see Dooku no-selling Nyriss' lightning?
I've never seen Dooku use tutaminis at all, so probably not.
My mapping of Revan to Dooku is completely subjective, but here are my reasons:
1) Both are considered the best of their eras.
2) This keeps Anakin > Revan, which just feels right to me for some reason, even though I think Revan is a more interesting character (at least the KotOR version of him).
Originally posted by Oneness
And there is zero evidence to back that claim.
Vitiates lightning overpowered 4 of the most powerful Jedi in the Order at the same time 'easily.' Nyriss' lightning is comparable to Sidious' and yet Vitiates is stated to be infinitely more powerful than hers. So there is evidence actually.
Originally posted by Oneness
There are ToR sequences like busting through blast doors, and there's the Empire at War: Forces of Corruption Victory sequences where Sidious kills the Ewoks. It is a part of the game.
Did that canonically happen?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Vitiates lightning overpowered 4 of the most powerful Jedi in the Order at the same time 'easily.' Nyriss' lightning is comparable to Sidious' and yet Vitiates is stated to be infinitely more powerful than hers. So there is evidence actually.
You're wanking Nyriss just a bit. Accept that, or don't I don't care it's the truth.
When reflected the amped blast disintegrated her (never was it stated that she still had her shield up).
I'd put her Force lightning between Mother Talzin and Starkiller II based on what we have seen.
Did that canonically happen?
Did TOR canonically happen? NO
Game cinematics, no books.
TOR is non-canon? So is this "canon according to Oneness" now? Whatever bogus outdated novelization or Empire at War cutscene (lmao) is more valid than a 200+ million dollar licensed LFL franchise that is explicitly C-canon?
I love how you rate canon as "whatever benefits my POV."
For our forum-wide amusement, why don't you list who is above the following according to you:
- Luke
- Anakin
- Sidious
I never understood the desire of some people to white knighting movie characters in an EU forum when they clearly don't like EU unless it involves the movie characters. Boggles the mind.
Originally posted by Oneness
You're wanking Nyriss just a bit. Accept that, or don't I don't care it's the truth.When reflected the amped blast disintegrated her (never was it stated that she still had her shield up).
I'd put her Force lightning between Mother Talzin and Starkiller II based on what we have seen.
I don't find it unbelievable that Nyriss' charged lightning (as in, she gathers power for a bit, increasing the destructive power of the attack) could be comparable to Sidious' standard lightning.
"Nyriss’s eyes went wide as Revan unleashed the power of her own attack against her. She tried to throw up another Force shield, but the bolts ripped it apart and continued on unabated. The lightning engulfed her, the intense heat consuming her instantly, leaving only a pile of charred ash."
Originally posted by Oneness
Did TOR canonically happen? NOGame cinematics, no books.
Yes. 😬
Its just that as I recall, Empire at War: Forces of Corruption only has one story campaign and Sidious isn't in it, or if he is, he doesn't actually win.
I don't think Anakin is greater than Revan...respectfully.
Revan is more powerful...
I wouldn't put Dooku in the same category as Revan...respectfully...either
Revan still has Dooku beat with just TK and Tutminus...alone...
I think he can become more powerful...respectfully than the chosen one
and Yoda...imo he was....
imo I don't think Anakin or Yoda could last 5min against Vitiate...
And imo Vitiate is more powerful than Sids...Three centuries vs Palpatine's rule....
I'm going with the True Sith Emperor Vitiate...on this one.