Emperor Malgus and Revan Reborn vs. Exar Kun and Ulic Qel Droma

Who will win this grand battle? Takes place in Malgus's Throne Room.

Honestly? Ulic is a master swordsman, but I don't recall his Force powers being on the level of say Revan and Malgus, both of which are well versed Force users with a stronger knowledge of the Dark Side. Kun is a better fight for either Malgus or Revan, but Ulic may be overmatched here. I'd need to review the TOTJ comics for anything more conclusive on his part.

Well he does have that amulet and he still is extremely powerful. But yeah, he's a duelist, not a Force dude.

Well he did have a Kun-esque Amulet, so overall I think he'd be capable of holding his own.

Ninja'd.

He's never shown to use the amulet in any truly powerful way, unless I'm having amnesia here. Again, I'd need to look over the source material, but having recently gone over just his battle from Kun to the end of the War, he doesn't so much as TK anybody. He just dominates with his saber, every time.

Perhaps, however even if he is mainly a sith warrior, I think he's more than capable of competing with either of these combatants.

But there's no bar for that besides Kun and him being explicitly "master swordsmen". They're unrivaled within their time, but that's about it. So is Mace/Dooku/Yoda in their time, but there's still some disparity, even if a little in the formers' cases, and then there's Force use.

We see that in terms of Force use, Kun is superior by far to Ulic. Ulic is captured by the Republic and held on trial. Kun freezes the entire chamber, ragdolls or butchers the opposing Jedi, and walks out with a freed Ulic in tow. In sword to sword, neither claimed the victory but in Force power Kun was head and shoulders above Ulic in every showing.

I know that Kun>>>Ulic in the force, Ulic even admits this I believe, however Ulic is still a very fast, skilled, and powerful swordsman, and I do think he could keep up with Revan or Malgus in a combat situation. I doubt either will ragdoll him with TK, and regular lightning won't do too much, although Malgus has his force Maelstrom. Pretty sure both could keep up with him as far as swordsmanship goes, Revan may be a bit inferior though.

Their command of the Force seems superior though and this impacts their ability to dictate distance and overpower him without succumbing in a melee. Malgus is vicious, and his use of the Force against Vem was pretty quick and effective. He is also pretty undeterred by saber combat. Meanwhile, you have Revan "hurr hurr of the Force" Unmasked who can pretty much ash Sith Lords at his peak. Not sure Ulic has anything to offer him either.

This fight would depend extremely on Ulic closing the distance while Kun plays some kind of Force support, and quite frankly I don't see that happening.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
But there's no bar for that besides Kun and him being explicitly "master swordsmen". They're unrivaled within their time, but that's about it. So is Mace/Dooku/Yoda in their time, but there's still some disparity, even if a little in the formers' cases, and then there's Force use.

Uliq held his own against pissed off Sylvar, without the use of the Force. Which is one of the best skill feats ever imo. Plus he was old and out of practice and doesn't he have some constant wound? Seriously impressive that he did that well.

Revan's most powerful uses of the force have been through defensive applications. Ulic doesn't really use things like lightning, so Revan won't have that advantage over him anyway. revan does have his own lightning, although the amount of power in said lightning is unknown. Exar could possibly keep malgus at bay while Ulic battles it out with Revan.

Uliq would beat Revan in a lightsaber fight imo. If he could get to him. Which i don't think he would since Revans TK is way above his.

I still have doubts about Revan ragdolling Ulic.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Uliq held his own against pissed off Sylvar, without the use of the Force. Which is one of the best skill feats ever imo. Plus he was old and out of practice and doesn't he have some constant wound? Seriously impressive that he did that well.

True. I'm not saying Ulic is a chump, but Ulic in his prime was unable to defeat Kun. If he can't likewise overcome Revan or Malgus quickly, he has no Force feats to fall back on.

Meanwhile, Kun may be fighting a handicap match.

Team 1!

I don't see Revan rag dolling Ulic in this equation. His absolute best is a hypothetical statement from Drew that he, under the right mindset, could collapse a building. Other than that he's opened a door, collapsed an archway, and pushed an Emperor. While that's good, I don't see him shitting on Ulic Quel Droma with TK.

That being said, this is a really good fight Supreme. Both teams are formidable.

all has proceeded as I have forseen.

To be entirely honest, I don't know enough about Ulic's specific feats to say whether or not he could take Revan. From his general information, I'd say it's pretty close, though.

Well he did defeat Mandalore while at a large disadvantage, and stalemated pissed Sylvar while having no force connection.

Ulic is the Malak to Exar Kun's Revan that is he has far less feats than his master in spite of having good deal of hype.