Emperor Malgus and Revan Reborn vs. Exar Kun and Ulic Qel Droma

Also--Ulic stalemated Exar Kun prior to the timeskip. Before the timeskip, Exar Kun lost single-saber battle with Vodo Siosk Baas. He only won slightly when he gained his second saber.

After the timeskip, he overpowered Vodo with a single blade, and crushed him with dual. I'm sure Ulic improved too, but he spent lots of that time in prison, so I'd say he's still marginally below Exar Kun.

Nevertheless, he does have Force Feats. Wasn't he able to like, control people's minds and shit as a Sith Lord? And he did have dat Amulet, which means Force Blasts are entirely possible on Ulic's end if he ever attempted it.

Revan vs Ulic Quel Droma is actually an interesting battle imo.

Team 1 takes this.

How so?

Revan and Exar battle for awhile during which time Malgus defeats Ulic. They then double team Exar Kun.

Hmm. Personally I don't think Revan can handle Kun any better than Malgus would handle Ulic. Exar's just more powerful, and is more skilled with the lightsaber.

Ugh. We've had this debate before and suffice to say I'm not debating it again.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Also--Ulic stalemated Exar Kun prior to the timeskip. Before the timeskip, Exar Kun lost single-saber battle with Vodo Siosk Baas. He only won slightly when he gained his second saber.

After the timeskip, he overpowered Vodo with a single blade, and crushed him with dual. I'm sure Ulic improved too, but he spent lots of that time in prison, so I'd say he's still marginally below Exar Kun.

Between his Vodo duel and his Ulic duel is when he got his sith training from Freedon and went on his quest and got his amulet. That's when he most likely jumped in power the most.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
I disagree. If Vodo had a saber he would not have lost so easily. The only reason Kun won was due to his raw power to cut through his cane. He wouldn't be able to do that to a saber.

Vodo's cane was, per narration "as strong as a lightsaber". While no one would argue sensibly that Kun could cut through a lightsaber, it's a fair bet to say that his rage and raw Force power pretty much overpowered his master's considerable talents.

Let's think about this here: Vodo is using the Force to hold his staff together, like Sion held his body together, except that Vodo's staff looks better after it's taken a few blows. It looks immaculate, actually. Either that's an extremely esoteric and shockingly simple Force technique anyone could learn, or he has some implied Force power higher than we realize.

And Kun overpowered this physically, before getting his amulets.

I'm rather certain, some people are underestimating Ulic quite a bit.

True. He didn't demonstrate the Force grandeur of Exar Kun, but some of his actions are quite noteable, even in that regard. While during his training, he already demonstrated some nice proficiency with the force and his lightsaber, we might move to the first "real" conflict he is involved in: the Beast Wars of Onderon.

While the outcome of that conflict in particular didn't do much to credit Qel-Droma's skill, one particular scene does: The escape from Onderon's palace, after Queen Amanoa did unveil her dark side abilities. Ulic is, at least partitially, able to withstand the Sith sorcery unleashed by the ruler of the planet. Enough to carry his wounded brother Cay of to safety, through blaster fire barrages from the dark side adept guards of the palace. Not an exceptionally "uber" demonstration of force connection, yet, demonstrating some talent on his part.

Even more "force tanking" of him is seen in the Freedon Nadd uprising. When the Jedi set out to confront the Sith Sorcerer King Ommin, who has managed to overwhelm Master Arca with his force abilities, the Sith Sorcerer unleashs a wave of dark side energy against the strike team. The entire team, consisting of half a dozen Jedi - including a noteable force adept like Nomi Sunrider - was floored by Ommins attack. With the exception of Ulic, who jumped right through it and destroyed the Sorcerer's exo-skeleton, effectively defeating him.

His next force feat is one that, possibly, served as prototype for the RotS scene in which Vader, now in his suit, tears apart that room in a fit of dark side emotion. Ulic does quite the same, when being poisoned and chained to some torture device by Satal Keto. He tears himself free from a rather stable looking connection to ground and ceiling. After that, he purges the Sith poison from his blood, basically on instinct, kills Satal and floors a Jedi trio coming to rescue him (with Nomi Sunrider among them) with some massive force wave.

We can also note, that it took Master Vodo and several other Jedi to use the sever force ability against Ulic, and that just with a temporary effect. The later use of that ability against him by Nomi Sunrider, apparently just worked, because he was destracted by the anguish he felt after having cut down his own brother Cay. And even then, his lightsaber skill alone was sufficient to fend of an enraged Jedi (Sylvar).

That aside, we shouldn't face his probable least prominent appearance in "The Clone Wars" video game. He teaches Anakin Skywalker how to resist the effects of the Dark Reaper superweapon, demonstrating some familiarity with the Sith Magic empowering the weapon and defensive force techniques capable of defeating such power. And apparently he had enough arcane knowledge to built his own holocron, that was later used by Darth Malgus (as mentioned in "Book of Sith"😉.

So we can conclude that Ulic enjoys a rather powerful force connection and seemingly is equiped with a quite nice force defense / resistance. Enough to duke it out with Malgus or Revan? I don't know. But neither do I see on of the both standing before Kun. So maybe Ulic would go down here, while Kun kills the first of the opposing team to destroy the second, after the latter has killed Ulic. Just an idea, though.

Good stuff. I had kind of forgotten some of that.

Team 2 just may take this.

We can also note, that it took Master Vodo and several other Jedi to use the sever force ability against Ulic, and that just with a temporary effect. The later use of that ability against him by Nomi Sunrider, apparently just worked, because he was destracted by the anguish he felt after having cut down his own brother Cay. And even then, his lightsaber skill alone was sufficient to fend of an enraged Jedi (Sylvar).

Nomi herself seems shocked that it was "so complete". It's her first time ever using the ability. I personally think that it's dependent on the power of the user versus the affected; as Kun had no idea Odan-Urr was going to try it on him and he shrugged it off naturally anyways.

Originally posted by psmith81992
How sure are we that Vodo and the jedi used force sever?

As the effect is, that Ulic does temporarily lose his force connection, and we know of no other ability causing such effects, I guess, we have a winner there.

Also, it's very likely that Nomi's proficiency with the technique was superior to that of Vodo and those jedi, and that's why it worked so well on Ulic, not because he was "distracted".

She, up to that point, had just theoretical knowledge of the ability in question, if I'm not mistaken. And while her supreme talent might certainly have influenced the strength of the effect on Ulic, the fact that he didn't offer any kind of resistance to it, does still remain.