Eragon vs. Link
Eragon is at his most powerful, gets Brisingr, his armor, his bow, all of the Eldunarí and all of his magic, except for death words.
Link is the TP version. He gets the Master Sword, the Hylian Shield, his bow, and a 3 of each type of his arrows (magic arrows included). He is wearing his best armor.
Who wins and why? Please give good reasons and support.
Normal arrows, bomb arrows, and...?
Twilight Princess Link does not have any magic arrows. He does, however, have the Magic Armor now, which leads to think he wins.
Eragon, barring magic, is not particularly superhuman. He can enhance himself, and was turned into some Elf equivalent at some point. Link is very far beyond human in several aspects, including strength and durability, so he has the physical edge.
Master Sword vs. Brisingr, which, if I recall right, is a flaming sword. The Master Sword protects from and dispels magical effects, so I'm just going to say it has the edge there.
Magical versatility goes to Eragon, but Link has a lot in the way of protection. The Triforce of Courage is seen to mitigate magical and transformation effects, and the Master Sword does the same with the added bonus of dispelling curses and cutting through magical defenses. Then there's the magic armor, which protects Link from all damage as long as there is money in his pockets. Kind of like a Ward, except powered by Rupees. Who even knows how canon that is, though.
All of the Eldunari means a very high possibility of mind rape by thousands of dragons. How does the Master Sword fair against mental attacks like that?
The strongest spell from Eragon destroyed a good deal of a castle and that guy doesn't have as much power as Eragon in this thread.
Physically there is no contest. The Goron feat alone is enough for TP Link to be stronger.
Huh, I'm missed the Eldunari bit. That's rather a lot of magic to be throwing around.
On mental attacks, Link looked directly into a shard of the Mirror of Twilight. Another character to do that immediately went insane and transformed into a giant iceberg monster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBtpVAkquAg
So yeah, pretty good on that front. Dunno about it with the thousands of Dragon souls Eragon apparently has now.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Speed feats? Also, Link is crazy durable. Also, how quantifiably unbreakable is it? Fi has some pretty impressive power.
Elves in Eragon moved so fast that even the best warriors of other races could barely perceive them. And when Eragon first faced an Elf who didn't pull any punches, he was getting his ass handed to him left and right simply from how fast he was. Once he got Elf-ified, he had the stats of an elf mixed with his already high human stats, which seemed to boost him above either race.
And as for the Dragon Rider swords, they were forged by the best smith in existence from a fallen meteorite and were said to never break, and despite tons of punishment, I don't think one ever did. Plus they had magic protecting them as well.
And on Link's durability, yes he is durable, but can he withstand a blade to the face for example?
Originally posted by KingD19That's not all that fast without quantifying it further. It only takes movements of around 90mph to have that effect up close, which puts our boy above that. So, Eragon is looking at 100-200 mph movements? Anything more?
Elves in Eragon moved so fast that even the best warriors of other races could barely perceive them. And when Eragon first faced an Elf who didn't pull any punches, he was getting his ass handed to him left and right simply from how fast he was. Once he got Elf-ified, he had the stats of an elf mixed with his already high human stats, which seemed to boost him above either race.And as for the Dragon Rider swords, they were forged by the best smith in existence from a fallen meteorite and were said to never break, and despite tons of punishment, I don't think one ever did. Plus they had magic protecting them as well.
And on Link's durability, yes he is durable, but can he withstand a blade to the face for example?
Well, the magic protection would be pretty moot without very high end backing as Fi would in all likelihood dispel, ignore, or overpower it. She's cut a (small, probably?) continent out of the Earth in her early history.
Yes.
King Bulbin is at least class 5 and failed to damage Link even early on. Link becomes progressively more and more powerful as the game progresses until he fights Ganondorf, a class 100+ hypersonic mage brick. mmm
Wha?
Firstly, piercing durability isn't a thing, lol. Secondly I'm not sure I understand.
Through out TP Link tanks a lot of different kinds of force. His UTS is great enough that he can hang in the air while wearing the iron boots to haul Argorok to the ground and beat his ass, and he can drag Fyrus' feet out from under him without damage from the massive amounts of tension. His UCS is high enough that he can support massive amounts of weight and even overpower Gorons. His USS is enough that even a weaker, early game Link could tank axe blows from King Bulbin.
Link's durability is pretty solidly established even early on. mmm
Off topic, why does no one ever use a different Link? Getting really bored of TP Link. 🙁
Piercing durability is very much a thing. That's why you have characters like Wonder Woman who can take a full out punch to the face from Superman like a champ, but a regular blade or bullet will puncture her like a regular person.
And from that gif, Bulbin smacked him with the flat of that axe. So that was blunt force durability at play.
Originally posted by KingD19
Piercing durability is very much a thing. That's why you have characters like Wonder Woman who can take a full out punch to the face from Superman like a champ, but a regular blade or bullet will puncture her like a regular person.And from that gif, Bulbin smacked him with the flat of that axe. So that was blunt force durability at play.
How strong is Eragon?
How powerful is Eragon's magic? Fi is capable of matching the triforce, which is planetary+ in scale. Her ability to dispel, reflect, repel, absorb, and generally tell magic to go **** itself has been the reason I've focused largely on the physical side of things, since it takes really powerful magic to get past her. mmm
The magic in the Eragon Universe is as powerful as the amount of energy you can put behind it. With all the dragon souls at his disposal, the energy at his disposal is basically limitless. Coupled with the one word, he could drop a mountain on Link or two. In Inheritence after gaining the Dragon Souls it's said that Eragon now has the "The strength to do anything" Though I still think that the sheer amount of mental force that Eragon can put behind his attack, is enough to overcome Links mental defence. And the mental attack I think is ultimately his best way to win.
Fi is Link's mental defense.
What is the greatest quantifiable feat we have for Eregon's magic? The 'strength to do anything' is basically a no-limit, which can't be taken as fact. How many dragon souls does he have? Are they expended when used to power magic? This really just raises more questions for me.
Could Eragon warp the entire world, or create a copy of it with his magic?
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Fi is Link's mental defense.What is the greatest quantifiable feat we have for Eregon's magic? The 'strength to do anything' is basically a no-limit, which can't be taken as fact. How many dragon souls does he have? Are they expended when used to power magic? This really just raises more questions for me.
Could Eragon warp the entire world, or create a copy of it with his magic?
And the greatest mental defense is against a mirror that turned another human insane is that correct?
Lets put it like this, A member of the Grey Folk with a spell almost accidently destroyed the world, hence a lock was imposed on magic, Eragon has the ability to circumvent that lock and has a unlimited supply on magic from the dragon souls, the one word is basically a plot hole. Eragon has in number atleast 136 dragon souls, but when gaining Galbatorix's it is said that Eragon gained a endless supply of dragon Souls and hence a endless supply of energy. The best feat besides destroy the world by accident, must be Glaedr and Oromis mentioning moving a mountain and that was with their magic supply which is indefinetely inferior to Eragon. (hence me mentioning dropping a mountain on Link) So No limit as the statement might be, I also think it's quite telling. Eragon at the end of the book could do anything on a planetary+ scale. It's not like he could destroy the universe or anything.
It's possible, we don't know because the story ends after Eragon has obtained the dragon souls.