Kurse VS The Hulk

Started by Stealth Moose5 pages

Janus you're ignoring that the weapon is Svartalalf tech and as such is some of the most advanced stuff we see in the movies. Asgardians, technological peers of the dark elves, make spears that shoot energy beams and a hammer that can, in the hands of Thor, create shockwaves, absorb high amounts of kinetic and electrical/heat energy, and survive rapid entry/renentry into earth's atmosphere. In fact, I was kind of surprised at how Thor was basically commanding his hammer to go into space to meet up with him. That's a durable little weapon.

Point being that Kurse has some good durability. The enchanted asgardian prison guard sword failed to penetrate his shouler, possibly getting stuck on his armor. He backhands Mjolnir, which in itself is considerable; Mjolnir is strong enough to cause shockwaves on impact, makes paste out of most foes, and split the Destroyer handily enough in the first film. The implication is that either the condition of being Kursed or the armor makes him more durable than Thor. And Thor/Loki already no sell bullets and can withstand thrashings from Hulk without death/paralysis.

Also Blax, your love for Hulk blinds you. I realize a half naked white man is too much for you sometimes, but you must restrain yourself.

Originally posted by janus77
IIRC, it basically staggered him, the wormhole-grenade finished him off, it's true, but the sword stopped him.

Also, other than swatting Thor aside, "Kurse" wasn't doing that much, he was like an angry teenager kicking the shit out of the toddlers in the playground...

Spoiler:
He got stabbed through the chest and he immediately turned around and killed Loki.

Either he has a massive healing factor or his internal organs were burned away or something.

Besides, it's not like Hulk would fare any better.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Also Blax, your love for Hulk blinds you. I realize a half naked white man is too much for you sometimes, but you must restrain yourself.

haermm That never gets old.

Originally posted by janus77
Hulk wins this. "The Kursed" was only enchanted against Asgardian weapons and magic, it couldn't even survive a pointy stick through the chest. Quite pathetic, durability wise.

Hulk's easily the tougher and, given that he grows far more powerful with stress and anger, he's going to quickly dominate "Kurse".

Also, Hulk was one-punching the big mecha-fish and easily survived the combined assault of something like 15-20 Chitauri ships, again showing outstanding durability above and beyond Thor et al.

The Hulk that fought Abomination in TIH was weakened to the point that Banner didn't even know if he could transform into Hulk ever again. And, more importantly, it was Hulk's blood that empowered Abomination so it's basically a fraction of Hulk's power, that Hulk was fighting against.

Where did it say that he was only enchanted against Asgardian weapons and magic? Considering that Thor and Loki seem bulletproof, I do think being enchanted against "asgardian weapons and magic" makes you extremely durable even against wordly weapons.

Plus as far as we saw in TIH and Avengers, Hulk does get stronger but he doesn't do it quickly. It takes him quite a while to move to a different level of strength, mostly we seldom see him change strength actually. So Hulk "quickly" growing stronger against Kurse has no actual proof.

Originally posted by janus77
Hulk wins this. "The Kursed" was only enchanted against Asgardian weapons and magic, it couldn't even survive a pointy stick through the chest. Quite pathetic, durability wise.

Hulk's easily the tougher and, given that he grows far more powerful with stress and anger, he's going to quickly dominate "Kurse".

Also, Hulk was one-punching the big mecha-fish and easily survived the combined assault of something like 15-20 Chitauri ships, again showing outstanding durability above and beyond Thor et al.

The Hulk that fought Abomination in TIH was weakened to the point that Banner didn't even know if he could transform into Hulk ever again. And, more importantly, it was Hulk's blood that empowered Abomination so it's basically a fraction of Hulk's power, that Hulk was fighting against.


No.

The whole argument of Kurse being immune to Asgardian Tech is stupid.

And your theories on TIH are guesswork at best.

Hulk takes this. You Thor-anything fanboys are hilarious.

A bit of pointy metal wielded by Loki (who is ridiculously and hilariously weaker than Hulk) went right through Kurse, Hulk will literally tear him into pieces.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hulk takes this. You Thor-anything fanboys are hilarious.

A bit of pointy metal wielded by Loki (who is ridiculously and hilariously weaker than Hulk) went right through Kurse, Hulk will literally tear him into pieces.

I almost thought this was a Quanchi112 post. Don't scare me like that, Robtard. At least use some logic.

Originally posted by the ninjak
No.

The whole argument of Kurse being immune to Asgardian Tech is stupid.

And your theories on TIH are guesswork at best.


IIRC Malkeith states that "The Kursed" will be immune to Asgardian weapons and magic. Several times, at that. Stupid or not, that's what it was.

And wrong on the TIH point too, as it was Sterns' Hulkblood that Blonsky got shot up with, in order to become the powerful Abomination of the final confrontation.

That was also the reason why Banner was Banner at that point, the Hulk energies had been drained from him. When he jumped out of the heli-carrier, at that point they weren't sure that he would even be able to initiate a transformation. Whether there was any Hulk left in him or not.

So, no, not a theory, simply a good and close reading of what the film was saying.

A weakened Hulk fought an Abomination that was essentially just using his own power. And he eventually got angry enough to over power him, breaking his grip once Abomination threatened the safety of Betty.

Using Thor was a measurement:

Thor != Hulk. The hammer seems to be an equalizer, but really Thor wasn't outclassed in H2H either.

Thor < Kurse. Kurse did not care if Thor had his hammer or not. He just beat the stuffing out of him.

If that benchmark is fairly accurate, and I don't see any reason to second guess it based on context, Kurse < Hulk. Unless there's some very specific aspect of Hulk's power that fails against Thor but would obliterate Kurse.

Ill go with Kurse as well.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I almost thought this was a Quanchi112 post. Don't scare me like that, Robtard. At least use some logic.

Instead of mildly disguised jabs, why not attack my argument and point out the 'lack of logic'?

Cos last I checked, Loki easily stabbed through Kurse with a bit of elven scrap metal(or was it an elven sword?); Hulk is far more powerful than Loki and isn't Asgardian made 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Instead of mildly disguised jabs, why not attack my argument and point out the 'lack of logic'?

Cos last I checked, Loki easily stabbed through Kurse with a bit of elven scrap metal(or was it an elven sword?); Hulk is far more powerful than Loki and isn't Asgardian made 🙂

Thor hurt Hulk with Mjolnir.

Kurse was unaffected.

Kurse wins.

Originally posted by janus77
IIRC Malkeith states that "The Kursed" will be immune to Asgardian weapons and magic. Several times, at that. Stupid or not, that's what it was.

I don't recall that happening at all.

Also, I don't understand why

Spoiler:
Loki being able to stab Kurse means anything in a fight with Hulk? Is Hulk going to get a Dark Elf blade and wield it against Kurse? No, he's going to hit and punch Kurse, and we saw how that worked out for Thor.

Also, Loki stabbed Kurse and it accomplished nothing at all. Abomination piercing Hulk not nearly as deep seemed to hurt him a lot more.

Originally posted by Robtard
Instead of mildly disguised jabs, why not attack my argument and point out the 'lack of logic'?

Cos last I checked, Loki easily stabbed through Kurse with a bit of elven scrap metal(or was it an elven sword?); Hulk is far more powerful than Loki and isn't Asgardian made 🙂

Look around, address the points already made by me and others. Then come back to me with this comment. Your blind assertions here have been addressed, whether or not that's acceptable to your worldview.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hulk takes this. You Thor-anything fanboys are hilarious.

A bit of pointy metal wielded by Loki (who is ridiculously and hilariously weaker than Hulk) went right through Kurse, Hulk will literally tear him into pieces.

A 12 yr old kid is hilariously weaker than me, that doesn't mean he doesn't have the strength to put a knife through my chest.

You can't claim that Hulk is immune to getting stabbed by magical asgardian/elven weapons simply because Hulk has never tried getting stabbed by one of them.

The only Asgardian weapon Hulk ever faced was Mjolnir, and Mjolnir hurt him far more than it hurt Kurse.

...Mjolnir staggered Hulk by a sucker punch from Thor. He managed to get up just fine and keep after, and from what I remember, never really hesitated from a hit by it again the rest of their scuffle on the helicarrier. 😬

Originally posted by XanatosForever
...Mjolnir staggered Hulk by a sucker punch from Thor. He managed to get up just fine and keep after, and from what I remember, never really hesitated from a hit by it again the rest of their scuffle on the helicarrier. 😬

Thor never used Mjolnir to sucker punch the Hulk.

LoL@sucker punching

These hulksters are hilarious.

After watching Thor i feel inclined to say Kurse, but we all know Hulk would kick his ass.