Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Because his possibilities are sheer endless. Hack is a possibility, as much as you want to doubt it. He has the resources and connections. Fry his circuits, Robots, distractions and heavy weapons are all good means to bring IM down.
Tony is not smarter, he might be the better engineer but Batman is by far the better tactician and smarter on top of that. He doesn't have to fight him h2h. That would be stupid. Tony needs his armor, so why fight an armored coward with h2h alone? A fair fight wouldn't go well for Tony, because he is inferior to Bruce, so it's all about exploit the weakness of the other and find a way to shut him down. Which is easier with an techbased armor then with someone like Batman. A new kind of EMP which could shut Tonys armor, not the usual crap, is in a possibility for someone like bruce. His best card however is his experience. He prepped to take the whole JL down, and he has for everyone a plan, also for Cyborg. I am not Batman but if he has a failsafe for people like Superman, Cyborg, Firestorm etc. Tony shouldn't be a problem.Captain America, while an superior h2h fighter is completly differen't from Batman, he relies to much on his fighting skills and not hus tech, brains and experience.
Sure, in an open unprepped fight, a coward in an midherald armor will win against an peak Human. But with prep time, the speciality of Batman, I don't see Tony winning.
Yet Stark has access to unleashing an army of armors. He created a team of armors in Execute Program that were able to cause worldwide panic and the combined might of the Avengers and Fantastic Four struggled against them.
And this was during the Extremis era where Stark was a hacking beast.
He decided to stop making so many armors due to the threat he eventually downgraded himself.
But showed he could make weapons combined with magical elements during Fear Itself which turned the tide of battle and granted the heroes the win against godlike entities.
Stark can crush Wayne with an unrelenting force of suits and the Dwarves still like him.
Plus he still has plenty of tricks up his sleeve. No doubt Wayne does as well but fun and games right?
Originally posted by the ninjak
Yet Stark has access to unleashing an army of armors. He created a team of armors in Execute Program that were able to cause worldwide panic and the combined might of the Avengers and Fantastic Four struggled against them.
And this was during the Extremis era where Stark was a hacking beast.He decided to stop making so many armors due to the threat he eventually downgraded himself.
But showed he could make weapons combined with magical elements during Fear Itself which turned the tide of battle and granted the heroes the win against godlike entities.
Stark can crush Wayne with an unrelenting force of suits and the Dwarves still like him.
Plus he still has plenty of tricks up his sleeve. No doubt Wayne does as well but fun and games right?
Nth metal lacing will negate magic assisted attacks.
Again, this isn't who can build the biggest gun and it's not a science contest. It's who (along with their tech) can form a better plan, contingencies included, and execute it better.
All things considered, it's a good fight but Batman wins.
Originally posted by janus77
God this is just insane... How can people even think Batman stands any chance here?It's just the hight of stupidity. Really, simply stupid to think Batman has any hope.
Next time you post, you should try to add something to the discussion. Make a point about the topic without targeting the people you are debating against. It would at least help camouflage your apparent anal fissure.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Of course it does, lol.It's not the ONLY thing that matters though.
The point is that Iron-man starts out with a massive lead in the offense and defense department and I've seen nothing that shows Batman can close the gap in a week, especially when Tony will be using that same week to increase the gap.
****it, IM uses the time platform that SHIELD has (he breaks in, as is his wont), to go back in time during that week's prep and kill The Joker before he kills Batman's parents.
Then he returns to the present to ask Bruce Wayne what his current excuse is for being such a miserable and shady bastard?
Then he kills Wayne, just because he obviously always could.
Iron Man will come up with a superbadass armour that sh!ts all over anything that Batman comes up with. The Outsiders armour will look like a toy compared to it. He spends all week making it, its powered by a Mjolnir fragments and is made of adamantium, fires Pym particles, draws on the Power Cosmic etc.
Batman shows up, and Boom tubes him away.
Cheating? Probably. But Batman doesn't care, as long as he wins.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Iron Man will come up with a superbadass armour that sh!ts all over anything that Batman comes up with. The Outsiders armour will look like a toy compared to it. He spends all week making it, its powered by a Mjolnir fragments and is made of adamantium, fires Pym particles, draws on the Power Cosmic etc.Batman shows up, and Boom tubes him away.
Cheating? Probably. But Batman doesn't care, as long as he wins.
Just for a brief second, he wonders what on earth this insane billionaire was playing at, turning up to fight IronMan, with nothing but a toolbelt and a bunch of trick boomerangs. He wonders whether he should revive Batman or not, then decides that an obviously delusional billionaire like Bruce Wayne cannot be let loose on the world, no matter how endearing his attempts at playing "hero" are.
He walks across the room, switches off the lights, looks back and wishes Bruce peaceful and happy dreams... Then heads to the bar for drinks and ladies.
Tony can definitely win here if he is somewhat out of character. His ego is his biggest weakness. He would definitely underestimate Bruce (cause he is human). Bruce on the other hand is better at prep and will do or use almost anything(dirty or not) to win. I don't see Tony defeating JL with prep. Bruce has suits that will increase his defense in order to attack.
I say IM 6/10. This is definitely not a stomp.
Originally posted by h1a8
Tony can definitely win here if he is somewhat out of character. His ego is his biggest weakness. He would definitely underestimate Bruce (cause he is human). Bruce on the other hand is better at prep and will do or use almost anything(dirty or not) to win. I don't see Tony defeating JL with prep. Bruce has suits that will increase his defense in order to attack.I say IM 6/10. This is definitely not a stomp.
Give examples of a prepped Tony underestimating people because they're human.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Its not that he underestimates humans.He seems to underestimate big battles (Magneto to some extent, Hulk on various occasions, Thor etc). I see it more as him being Worfed, though.
Per forum rules, the characters are operating at the best of their abilities, that means Tony would be taking the fight seriously and planning accordingly. yet certain people are basically arguing that Tony will either act like a moron or a fool.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Per forum rules, the characters are operating at the best of their abilities, that means Tony would be taking the fight seriously and planning accordingly. yet certain people are basically arguing that Tony will either act like a moron or a fool.
Per forum rules, CIS is still in effect.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Batman defeated Darkseid, a literal god and generally the baddest thing in the DC universe by shooting him with a bullet made of Radion, a rare element toxic to Darkseid's people, Batman defeated Superman in Frank Millers The Dark Knight using kryptonite, Batman defeated the entire legion of doom by manipulating them to turn on eachother,
Were any of those guys prepping to fight batman and knew he was coming?