@Galan...
Why would the Rot work on someone with Frank's physique? We can't exclude an attack if another attack doesn't work.
She seems faster than Frank imo and more agile. I see no reason for her not to gain the advantage using her stealth and superior range attack.
What's Frank's best speed ft? I'm trying to see if he has the capabilities of blocking her blades.
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, I'd thought about her spear(it's really her best option here, imo.) However, while the spear may be touted to kill most things it strikes, the same thing can be said about The Rot-- yet Frank is immune to its effects nonetheless:
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If The Rot can't hurt Frank, it's hard for me to imagine Proxima's spear hurting him, but I digress...His guns can deliver anti-nuclear payloads, and have no problem killing the undead/demon type:
http://imgur.com/P9ZjmlDHe wields the sword of Michael, which can [also] cleave right through damn near anything:
http://imgur.com/0Kxz1HcFurthermore(and most impressively), his strength is sufficient to toss around the likes of Shazam/Dianna, and tool OMAC... If you're not familiar with OMAC, he easily owned: the Nuclear Men, Iron General in August, Godiva, Guy Gardner, The Olympian, Booster Gold, Blue Beetle, etc. Aside from that, Superman postulated that OMAC might be even stronger than himself-- but again: Frankenstein proved to be his superior.
Proxima's best bet for an incapacitation/TKO-win is that starweight-net-thingy she did to Hulk-- but it seemed like her initial/first-line/go-to tactic was simply skewering/killing her opponents with a spear-throw-- something that certainly wouldn't be a full-proof tactic against Frank. So yeah...
FTFY.
ooops. Still a formidable weapon that would destroy PM, IMO.
Originally posted by carver9The Rot is a fundamental force of death/destruction/decay in DC, of which has proven quite fatal to almost anything it has come in contact with(see Swamp Thing and Earth 2 for examples)-- Frank is immune to it. If The Rot cannot harm Frank, there is no reason for me to believe the spear's 'insta-kill-you' effect would just... Kill him outright(especially given that it is relatively featless in that regard.)
@Galan...Why would the Rot work on someone with Frank's physique? We can't exclude an attack if another attack doesn't work.
She seems faster than Frank imo and more agile. I see no reason for her not to gain the advantage using her stealth and superior range attack.
What's Frank's best speed ft? I'm trying to see if he has the capabilities of blocking her blades.
Without her spear, Luke Cage was going blow-for-blow with Proxy. Pardon me for not being overly impressed by her speed/stealth/strength.
What does speed have to do with anything?
Originally posted by Galan007
The Rot is a fundamental force of death/destruction/decay in DC, of which has proven quite fatal to almost anything it has come in contact with(see Swamp Thing and Earth 2 for examples)-- Frank is immune to it. If The Rot cannot harm Frank, there is no reason for me to believe the spear's 'insta-kill-you' effect would just... Kill him outright(especially given that it is relatively featless in that regard.)Without her spear, Luke Cage was going blow-for-blow with Proxy. Pardon me for not being overly impressed by her speed/stealth/strength.
What does speed have to do with anything?
Because he would be open to her attacks. It might not kill him but it'll harm him to the point of it being a forum win.
I forgot about Frank's crossover with OMAC, I really miss his (OMAC's) ongoing, one of the saddest New 52 cancellations.
At any rate, PM does seem to have a definite speed edge, but if Frank gets his hands in her it's completely over. I doubt the spear would kill Frank, but the net might be trouble. As of now, Frank hasn't done anything close to withstanding a star, not to say he couldn't but so far he hasn't had that caliber of durability showing.
Let's not discount Corvus or Arthur either, Arthur had a few sick showings in Aquaman 25, and Curvus cut through Hyperion like he wasn't even there.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I forgot about Frank's crossover with OMAC, I really miss his (OMAC's) ongoing, one of the saddest New 52 cancellations.At any rate, PM does seem to have a definite speed edge, but if Frank gets his hands in her it's completely over. I doubt the spear would kill Frank, but the net might be trouble. As of now, Frank hasn't done anything close to withstanding a star, not to say he couldn't but so far he hasn't had that caliber of durability showing.
Let's not discount Corvus or Arthur either, Arthur had a few sick showings in Aquaman 25, and Curvus cut through Hyperion like he wasn't even there.
I think Franky tagged Flash in TW. So, Franky has enhanced speed, strength, etc... He's a super soldier just like Cap... But better.
Proxima's Midnight spear should give her the win over either of Team 2 as it can pretty easily incapacitate and hurt them.
Corvus Glaive's staff is also very dangerous as it can cut apart either Aquaman or Frankenstein.
Team 2 however is noticeably physically stronger. This can go either way. I might give it to Team 1 because I don't know how anyone can counter Proxima's spear.
Originally posted by Galan007
He wields the sword of Michael, which can [also] cleave right through damn near anything:
http://imgur.com/0Kxz1Hc
Dang! Have they explained how he got Michael's sword?
Originally posted by carver9He would be open to Proxy's spear-throw--which I've never debated. However, the spear wouldn't have the same effect on Frank that it does on most others, for reasons I've already mentioned(it'd just leave a hole wherever it struck, which isn't a big deal at all for Frank, thanks to the blood of Melmoth he's got coursing through his veins)... And once Proxy's spear is out of the way, all it takes is Luke Cage-level strength/durability to fight evenly with her-- and Frank is considerably above Luke in those areas.
Because he would be open to her attacks. It might not kill him but it'll harm him to the point of it being a forum win.
Additional proof that Frank would be immune to the spear's alleged 'insta-kill-you' effect can be seen here...
Frank tanks a 'BlackBomb':
"The BlackBomb atomizes any living thing in its blast range. I was... Immune."
Like I said earlier, Proxy's only surefire tactic is the starweight-net, imo. That, however, certainly didn't appear to be an ability she used right out of the gate... Which is why I think Frank would beat her.
Originally posted by ares834Sadly, they have not. 馃檨
Dang! Have they explained how he got Michael's sword?
It, like all of his other arcane weaponry, just seems to be something he accrued over the centuries.
Originally posted by Galan007
He would be open to her spear-throw--which I've never debated. However, the spear hitting Frank wouldn't have the same effect it does on most others, for reasons I've already mentioned(it's just leave a hole wherever it struck, which isn't a big deal at all... And once her spear is out of the way, all it takes is Luke Cage-level strength/durability to fight evenly with Proxy-- and Frank is considerably above Luke in those areas.Additional proof that Frank would be immune to the spear's 'insta-kill-you' effect can be seen here...
Frank tanks a 'BlackBomb':
"The BlackBomb atomizes any living thing in its blast range. I was... Immune."Like I said earlier, Proxy's only viable tactic is the starweight-net, imo. That, however, certainly didn't appear to be her go-to/immediate/initial tactic.
Sadly, they have not. 馃檨
Franky is an absolute BEAST. No wonder they call him the unstoppable super soldier. He's basically the slayer of top tiers. 馃槈
Originally posted by Galan007
Frank tanks a 'BlackBomb':
"The BlackBomb atomizes any living thing in its blast range. I was... Immune."
No offense, but that's not really a durability feat for Franky. Frank was immune because he's only sort of living, sort of dead-ish. So no, not really a durability feat IMO.
Originally posted by CogitoDidn't think I'd need to post more context, but apparently... I was wrong.
No offense, but that's not really a durability feat for Franky. Frank was immune because he's only sort of living, sort of dead-ish. So no, not really a durability feat IMO.
Those creatures Frank was fighting were "The Rot incarnate":
When said creatures began spawning en gros, Frank called a "Code 666", which, in layman's terms, is "an undead infestation":
In a nutshell: the BlackBomb was able to perma-kill undead manifestations of The Rot itself via atomization(anything less than that would've just made The Rot-creatures spread even more)... Yet Frank was immune to its effects.
So yeah, it definitely was a very impressive resistance feat for Frank. 馃檪
