Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I don't recall Grievous being a legitimate threat to Obi-Wan.
Well they've fought several times throughout TCW, and ROTS is the only time Kenobi decisively beat Grievous. Other than that, there were times when Grievous has either ragdolled Kenobi or forced him to flee.
GG definitely is a legit threat to Kenobi, as seen here where the General pushes him pretty hard.
(also note that GG seems to resist Kenobis TK at 1.06 and 2.10)
I think Grievous is being underrated in this topic.
I disagree with Palpatine about Anakin being the best fit to take on Grievous.
Anakin may be more powerful than Kenobi, but with his aggressive fighting style, I don't think he would do nearly as well as Kenobi did. This is a case where A > B > C logic doesn't work in my opinion.
I could see Dooku and Grievous taking this more often than not.
Watching the videos now. At ~2:00 in the first video, it appears Grievous cuts through those Magna-guard weapons, which are made of phrik and thus virtually indestructible. Or I'm on crack.
Nope, just rewatched it. He definitely cuts the ends off.
~2:38, Obi-Wan realizes he has Force powers and TK's that dead Magnaguard into Grievous. Derp.
Just finished the first video. Honestly, considering the lack of room and Grievous' obvious higher level of physical strength, Obi-Wan doesn't get pwnt. If anything, once he brings his TK to bear, Grievous runs like hell. Worst case - draw.
Watching the second video now. So far, Grievous' advantage comes from his unorthodox limbage, which is still a valid strength in his favor. ~1:00, Obi-Wan is like LOLNOPE I HAZ TK and Grievous can't do anything about it. Grievous than runs away.
Also, it's blatantly obvious that Grievous has Gadet Magnet Soles. Hacker.
Concluded the fight. Aside from getting some hits in with his Gadget claws, Grievous didn't stomp here either, and ran away like a *****. More environmental chaos to upset the fight (which these series is notorious for), and Grievous yet again escapes.
Watching the third fight. Already, it's not a simple 1 v 1, but Grievous gets bonus points for tanking that explosion. But then the fight is pretty much over. This shouldn't even count for discussion.
These videos give me the following conclusions:
1. Grievous can do some good damage with his bendy straw limbs.
2. He's stronger than previously though.
3. He's afraid of TK and runs like hell.
4. He can't take Obi-Wan in a straight fight.
Neph, at no point does Grievious resist TK. Idk what you're talking about here. 1:06, Grievous is pushed back from a saber slash, and at 2:10, Obi mimes hitting him.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
ROTS commentary states he's a level 8 swordsman unless he taps into the Dark Side. On par with Kenobi.
Yeah but he does tap his rage (dark side) regularly in challenging fights. So even by Nick's standards, Anakin is a level 9.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
These videos give me the following conclusions:1. Grievous can do some good damage with his bendy straw limbs.
2. He's stronger than previously though.
3. He's afraid of TK and runs like hell.
4. He can't take Obi-Wan in a straight fight.
Neph, at no point does Grievious resist TK. Idk what you're talking about here. 1:06, Grievous is pushed back from a saber slash, and at 2:10, Obi mimes hitting him.
Exactly! 👆
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Watching the videos now. At ~2:00 in the first video, it appears Grievous cuts through those Magna-guard weapons, which are made of phrik and thus virtually indestructible. Or I'm on crack.Nope, just rewatched it. He definitely cuts the ends off.
~2:38, Obi-Wan realizes he has Force powers and TK's that dead Magnaguard into Grievous. Derp.
Just finished the first video. Honestly, considering the lack of room and Grievous' obvious higher level of physical strength, Obi-Wan doesn't get pwnt. If anything, once he brings his TK to bear, Grievous runs like hell. Worst case - draw.
Watching the second video now. So far, Grievous' advantage comes from his unorthodox limbage, which is still a valid strength in his favor. ~1:00, Obi-Wan is like LOLNOPE I HAZ TK and Grievous can't do anything about it. Grievous than runs away.
Also, it's blatantly obvious that Grievous has Gadet Magnet Soles. Hacker.
Concluded the fight. Aside from getting some hits in with his Gadget claws, Grievous didn't stomp here either, and ran away like a *****. More environmental chaos to upset the fight (which these series is notorious for), and Grievous yet again escapes.
Watching the third fight. Already, it's not a simple 1 v 1, but Grievous gets bonus points for tanking that explosion. But then the fight is pretty much over. This shouldn't even count for discussion.
These videos give me the following conclusions:
1. Grievous can do some good damage with his bendy straw limbs.
2. He's stronger than previously though.
3. He's afraid of TK and runs like hell.
4. He can't take Obi-Wan in a straight fight.
Neph, at no point does Grievious resist TK. Idk what you're talking about here. 1:06, Grievous is pushed back from a saber slash, and at 2:10, Obi mimes hitting him.
I never said Grievous stomped him, I said he was a threat to him and pressed him hard, which he did. He seemed the obvious superior in a direct duel with Obi-Wan only managing to pushing him back when he catches him off-guard with TK.
At 1.06 Grievous is pushed back and stumbles back a bit, but then Kenobi pulls his blade towards the magnaguard and Grievous thrusts his chest out. I think Obi was either trying to force pull him or GG was er... unbalanced? Kenobi clearly tries to TK push him at 2.10 though, lol.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Source? Let me check the ROTS novel. Pretty sure they are stated as equals.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I never said Grievous stomped him, I said he was a threat to him and pressed him hard, which he did. He seemed the obvious superior in a direct duel with Obi-Wan only managing to pushing him back when he catches him off-guard with TK.At 1.06 Grievous is pushed back and stumbles back a bit, but then Kenobi pulls his blade towards the magnaguard and Grievous thrusts his chest out. I think Obi was either trying to force pull him or GG was er... unbalanced? Kenobi clearly tries to TK push him at 2.10 though, lol.
I am glad TCWs elected to show Grievous as a legit threat and not a total ***** to TK in some ways. It was good to see him defeat Adi Gallia and push Kenobi.
Also I think Grievous seems to have gotten better to when he got tooled by Fisto.
