Luke (ROTJ) Runs the KOTOR Gauntlet

1. 3 of these guys on the left and right.
2. Juhani
3. Jolee Bindo
4. Darth Bandon
5. Bastila Shan
6. Darth Malak

15 minutes rest after each fight. Takes place on the Geonosis arena.

Bandon is in that first match. Luke dies then.

Not sure. I see him falling at 4, 5 or 6. Guys like Jolee and Juhani are never really displayed as exemplar Jedi so I can see Luke defeating them.

Lol easily clears.

Juhani is a bit of a padawan, but Jolee is a wise old Jedi and survived in the wilderness on Kashykk. He shouldn't be underestimated.

And again, the three Sith in the initial picture would probably undo him since he hasn't displayed the technique and skill to overcome that many Force using opponents.

Stops at Malak imo, unless Malak starts talking about his sister.

Quite possibly clears.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Bandon is in that first match. Luke dies then.

No, if you read it carefully he's only reffering to the guys that are with Bandon.

Man, the Luke love around here is strong. Did anyone rewatch RotJ recently? I'm curious to know what makes him stronger than people who actually have Force training and practical experience. Hell, people like Kit Fisto and AotC Ani/Obi should be able to dominate Luke. What is it that people think he has, or is this a "he beat Vader and he has 2345% of Sidious potential, so he wins" argument all over again?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
No, if you read it carefully he's only reffering to the guys that are with Bandon.

Bandon is present though. Therefore, he wins.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Man, the Luke love around here is strong. Did anyone rewatch RotJ recently? I'm curious to know what makes him stronger than people who actually have Force training and practical experience. Hell, people like Kit Fisto and AotC Ani/Obi should be able to dominate Luke. What is it that people think he has, or is this a "he beat Vader and he has 2345% of Sidious potential, so he wins" argument all over again?

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Loses to bastilla. I don't see why he would lose to bandon based on kotor.... does TOR reveal any more information about bandon that would actually make him a competent combatant.

No. But Bandon was number 2 of the Sith at the time so that's pretty good. Plus, Luke doesn't have much rest between rounds so I could see him loosing due to exhaustion.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
[B]Man, the Luke love around here is strong. Did anyone rewatch RotJ recently? I'm curious to know what makes him stronger than people who actually have Force training and practical experience. Hell, people like Kit Fisto and AotC Ani/Obi should be able to dominate Luke. What is it that people think he has, or is this a "he beat Vader and he has 2345% of Sidious potential, so he wins" argument all over again?

Even before he raged out, he does better against Vader than many fully-trained and experienced masters.

Originally posted by Q99
Even before he raged out, he does better against Vader than many fully-trained and experienced masters.

Vader was totally holding back though. No Force powers used, very little offense compared to ESB. Again, I asked people what happened in 2 years that made Luke so much better. His showings are not up to par, and his level of technique and knowledge is woefully inadequate at this stage.

I love it when video-game characters are used. We get to make all kindz of speculations. All kindz...

Realistically, he dies at one. Luke showed no great prowess with a lightsaber in either the movie or novel. He was good, sure, but nothing remarkable. He also showed effectively zero skill in Force abilities. One Drain, Lightning, Stasis field, Choke, etc., and he's out.

But for the sake of f*cking canon (because realistically, movie/novel Vader and Palpatine would lose here too)... he dies at Jolee. Old man's too tough and experienced.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Vader was totally holding back though. No Force powers used, very little offense compared to ESB. Again, I asked people what happened in 2 years that made Luke so much better. His showings are not up to par, and his level of technique and knowledge is woefully inadequate at this stage.

Intend self-training and reflecting on his duel with Vader. I've heard Luke compared to Marvel's taskmaster, what with how fast he picked things up from a little experience.

As Vader said, his skills were complete. If he had not gained significantly in skill, raging out would not have been enough to push Vader.

Yeah, it is said that his learning rate is extraordinary, or something like that.

Is that why DE Sidious beat his ass, who is perhaps 20-30 % better, and why Exar Kun's spirit used him as a whipping boy?

Because he's just so good at learning by self reflection?

He did beat DE Sidious in a duel.

Kun... I guess you could write it off as him being unused to facing spirits, though another factor would be 'early EU by a writer who loved some spirits.' And Kun was a spirit empowered by the sacrifice of thousands of lives when he died, so it might have been stronger than living Kun even,