Megatron (gen 1 cartoon) vs. Ganondorf (TP)

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You don't decide who is or is not a fan Quan. You have no authority, so keep on clowning, and I get a laugh at your fanboyish expense.

No, judging by your own line, you evoked the equivelancy rule. You can't have it both ways Quan, either the magic works as it's supposed to, or it's just as valid a defence as the technology it is facing. In which case only the power output is a deciding factor. and since Ganon survived a castle popping explosion at ground zero, and Megatron's fusion cannon never came close to that anywhere in gen 1, you are out of excuses.

You don't get to dictate terms Quan. You either debate in an honest and fair manner, or you get ridiculed like a chump. If you had debated fairly and honestly throughout your KMC career, you would not be known as the forum idiot like you are now.

You already broke them, several hundred times. AND, my question is not breaking any rule as long as we don't go off on the tangent. Like I said, it's a measuring stick. If you don't want to use names, or if you want me to rephrase, that's fine, but a stubborn refusal to give a measurement of where you think Megatron stacks against general magic use, then I'm sorry, but that is a direct refusal to answer a pertinent question regarding a debate against a Magic user. You have conceded this point, and you must now cease claiming I said any magic user can beat Megatron, because that is quite simply untrue, and a horrid misrepresentation of what I actually said.

Keep it up, and that Ush report can still follow Quan. Your on a short leash.

Yes, I can. He tanked the magical attack due to having greater immunity against magic. He can't tank Megatrons attack though since he's never been hit by futuristic technological weaponry.

Again, I make valid points whereas you insult and shake your little rattle.

Quit threatening to report people. Its childish and old. Not answering your off topic nonsense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I did decide you are not a fan. Sorry, you're out.

Sorry, you are not Hasbro.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I can. He tanked the magical attack due to having greater immunity against magic. He can't tank Megatrons attack though since he's never been hit by futuristic technological weaponry.

Sorry Quan, but the mechanics of an explosion don't change due to the source of energy used.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, I make valid points whereas you insult and shake your little rattle.

You refuse to answer a direct and pertinent question with regaards to the character you are currently supporting. That's a direct concession that you can't scale Megatron's capabilities compared to magic, thus you accept he is no more resistant than the Cybertronians have demonstrated to be against Merlin and Mara Al Utha.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit threatening to report people. Its childish and old. Not answering your off topic nonsense.

It's not a threat, it's a warning. You've been running your mouth a LOT recently, and doing nothing but dodge, goalpost shift, and make claims with no evidence, and not just in here.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Sorry, you are not Hasbro.

Sorry Quan, but the mechanics of an explosion don't change due to the source of energy used.

You refuse to answer a direct and pertinent question with regaards to the character you are currently supporting. That's a direct concession that you can't scale Megatron's capabilities compared to magic, thus you accept he is no more resistant than the Cybertronians have demonstrated to be against Merlin and Mara Al Utha.

It's not a threat, it's a warning. You've been running your mouth a LOT recently, and doing nothing but dodge, goalpost shift, and make claims with no evidence, and not just in here.

His power is greater than the two swords which cut into his flesh.

I posted a clip. You don't like my opinion don't respond to me. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Magic is different than regular energy. That is the point of magic. Sorry.

His power is greater than the two swords which cut into his flesh.

I posted a clip. You don't like my opinion don't respond to me. 🙂

😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
My opinion has remained the same. No concession.

So we agree that Ganondorf tanks castle busters. Good.

Thank you for your participation in this glorious endeavor.

Originally posted by The Scenario
So we agree that Ganondorf tanks castle busters. Good.

Thank you for your participation in this glorious endeavor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Magic is different than regular energy. That is the point of magic. Sorry.

Then we are back to my original hypothesis, as in Megatron is no more resistant to it than Starscream, Grimlock and Magnus proved to be, as in not at all.

You can take it either way Quan, but you can't have it both ways at once, sorry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His power is greater than the two swords which cut into his flesh.

But not greater than the castle bust. Your attempting to stick to a low end and disreguard the high end here Quan, That is lowballing really hard, and that won't work.

Besides, Megatron isn't striking Dorf with a sword, and energy weapons fire damage is completely different from cutting damage.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I posted a clip. You don't like my opinion don't respond to me. 🙂

It's not an opinion if you try to flaunt it as fact like you have. Would you prefer to be ignored?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Then we are back to my original hypothesis, as in Megatron is no more resistant to it than Starscream, Grimlock and Magnus proved to be, as in not at all.

You can take it either way Quan, but you can't have it both ways at once, sorry.

But not greater than the castle bust. Your attempting to stick to a low end and disreguard the high end here Quan, That is lowballing really hard, and that won't work.

Besides, Megatron isn't striking Dorf with a sword, and energy weapons fire damage is completely different from cutting damage.

It's not an opinion if you try to flaunt it as fact like you have. Would you prefer to be ignored?

It is far greater and isn't speculation.

One is more powerful than the other. Too true.

You get too stressed out here. Unlike you I enjoy myself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is different magic than what Dorf possesses and Megatron is greater than those transformers. Horrible logic.

Except Grimlock has dropped Megatron more than once, and Magnus has dropped Megs's more powerful future self in Galvatron a few times too. Both were helpless against Mara Al Utha, who required a Blaster amped Golden One's counterspell to defeat via BFR.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is far greater and isn't speculation.

The explosion that toppled the castle, in which Dorf was standing at ground zero, was FAR larger and more devastating than the shot, which we don't know Megs even fired, that toppled the observatory. The area of destruction during the Castle Bust was far in excess of that, and Dorf was in the room within inches of where the source of that explosion took place.

I'm sorry, but even if you are right, and Midna's spear didn't cause the explosion, the fact that Dorf was even in the castle at all, nevermind the same room as that explosion speaks volumes as to his withstanding that explosion despite being a flesh and blood man.

Originally posted by quanchi112
One is more powerful than the other. Too true.

Power has nothing to do with damage type. It's already proven that Dorf can withstand the concussion waves and kinetic impact of an explosion many times the size of anything Megatron's fusion canon can dish out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You get too stressed out here. Unlike you I enjoy myself.

I get frustrated at general stupidity. I would prefer it if you were not one of those people who intentionally acted stupid.

I am Megatron

Originally posted by Supra
I am Megatron

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't since we don't see it hit him.

You already argued that Ganondorf tanks castle busters. Are you backing out of your previous claims?